Author: Will Singleton
Date: 16:56:23 05/06/99
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On May 06, 1999 at 19:41:38, Todd Durham wrote: >On May 06, 1999 at 18:37:39, Will Singleton wrote: > >> >>On May 06, 1999 at 17:35:35, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>> >>>On May 06, 1999 at 17:23:26, Jeremiah Penery wrote: >>> >>>>As I read some of the current threads going up (and being taken down just as >>>>quickly), I can't help but think that the moderators are not doing their job >>>>properly. I personally have nothing against the moderators (I have not >>>>interacted with them in any way), yet if so many people are leaving because of >>>>the moderation, something must be done. CCC is somewhat like a government - >>>>There are elections, and the moderators become like the presidents (This may be >>>>a bad analogy.). If the president doesn't do his job properly, he can be >>>>impeached and removed from office for this. Is it possible that this can be >>>>done with moderators? >>>> >>>>Any thoughts? >>>> >>>>Jeremiah >>> >>>They are the government and the press at the same time. They have the power to >>>make decisions about what is posted here, which is fine, but they also have the >>>power to control public response to these decisions, to the point where they can >>>completely eradicate any trace of dissent. >>> >>>This is a small pond, so it is hard to use the word "power" with a straight >>>face, but in this limited context they are extremely powerful and need to be >>>extremely careful to be responsible. >>> >>>It is hard to do anything about the current situation when there is the very >>>real possibility that any critical comment you make will be declared "off-topic" >>>and erased with no further mention. >>> >>>I think Peter is a great guy. I think the problem here is Harald and Will. >>>Personally I think that Harald and Will should go away and let Peter run the >>>place until July 1st. >>> >>>bruce >> >>Bruce, >> >>Wow, thanks. I like you too. >> >>But we were elected to do a job, and we're going to do it. Others might quit, >>Bruce, not me. >> >>Do you recall that we decided (all the moderators) that discussions about >>moderation were fine, but not discussions about a decision to delete a message? >>Do you remember the reasoning behind that? It was to avoid constant dispute and >>anarchy. That is the policy that was agreed to and made known to everyone. If >>you want the policy to change, then lobby for your own slate when the voting >>comes up next month. > >This comment seems a bit too aggressive and arguementative, in my opinion. Really? In light of the fact that he just said I ought to quit and go home?? I suppose you thought his comment was full of tact and decorum. > > >> >>The Hyatt thread was deleted for the reasons I gave. Your message was deleted >>because it argued a specific decision, something not allowed. Can't argue balls >>& strikes with the ump. > >That would seem to kill any kind discussion about the strike zone. How can one >critique moderation without citing specific examples? This idea seems self >serving, whether it is intended to be or not. A change of policy should be in >order. > >> Don't understand your point. One can discuss the strike zone by defining it, up or down, inside or out, without saying "That damn ump called it a strike six inches off the plate! Kill the ump!" You simply define the strike zone, and stick by it. >>btw, the moderators made a concerted attempt to get Hyatt back. We admitted we >>made mistakes, we researched the record and addressed some of his concerns. We >>spent some time on this, since we too would like to see him back, and we know >>everyone else does too. But he wouldn't be budged. >> >>All of our actions are taken in good faith, with the best interests of the club >>in mind. For some people, we don't moderate enough. For others, too much. >>What can you do? > >Have a running poll question about whether there is too much or too little >moderation. Clear it every so often so the back log doesn't effect more recent >feelings of the membership. But given the big stink that is going on now, I >think that perhaps the moderators (ie you) would be rethinking the policy. > > >Todd Durham
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