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Subject: Re: Can/Will CCC Survive the Current Commotion??? ICD's View

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 21:45:31 05/06/99

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On May 06, 1999 at 23:37:59, Steven Schwartz wrote:

>I witnessed what was happening here on CCC for the last few days,
>but I have been too busy to sit down and compose my thoughts until
>now, so here goes…
>
>It is safe to say that if I had any idea of the aggravation that
>creating the CCC would cause, I could have spent the 1000 man hours
>that have gone into this project doing something productive for
>my business.
>
>But it was my decision, and I have no one to blame but myself.
>
>Along the way, I have learned a few lessons:
>
>I have learned that when it comes to dealing with people in
>computer chess, there are more differing viewpoints than there
>are potential moves in chess.
>
>I have learned that if you throw an idea on the table, 50% will
>vehemently favor it and 50% will vehemently oppose it.
>
>I have learned that there is more politics in computer chess
>than there is in all of Washington, DC (and perhaps more screwing
>of people as well).
>
>I have learned that compromise is not a virtue in our field, but
>it is more important that one have the last say, no matter how long
>the argument has to last.
>
>I have learned that people who are not happy with what goes on in
>CCC feel it necessary to resign publicly instead of simply going away.
>
>I have learned that no matter what a moderator does or says, he will
>be criticized by SOMEONE and most likely in a public forum.
>
>I have learned that if a moderator is too strict, he will be accused
>of censorship.
>
>I have learned that if a moderator is too lenient, he will be accused
>of allowing the CCC to turn into a personal attack forum.
>
>I have learned that if a moderator is right in the middle, he will be
>accused of not being aggressive enough AND not being lenient enough.
>
>I have learned that no matter how hard moderators try to do the right
>thing, it is impossible to do the right thing.
>
>I have learned that people can post what they believe to be an on-topic
>post, and they can be deleted along with the rest of a thread that may
>not be in topic
>
>I have learned that just about every Founder of CCC has left - some
>because moderation was too strict and some because it was too lenient.
>
>I have learned that CCC can and does flourish without the "big" names,
>but it is nice to have them here.
>
>I have learned that there is not necessarily a correlation between people
>who sign up with pseudonyms and people who cause trouble. Karin's Dad
>is a fine example.
>
>I have learned that people who become moderators really do spend a good
>deal of time trying to do the best job they can.
>
>I have learned that I often disagree with moderator's decisions, but I
>respect the time and energy and thought that usually goes into making
>those decisions.
>
>I have learned that I should have deleted that first anti-Hyatt post
>(even though I was not authorized to do so) as soon as I saw it as
>opposed to trying to reach the moderators (as I was supposed to do)
>whom I did not know were not available.
>
>I have learned that few, if any, decisions made by moderators are
>politically based.
>
>I have learned that ICD can live without the CCC very nicely.
>
>I have learned that I no longer care, as I once did, if anyone leaves
>or threatens to leave CCC.
>
>I have learned that a CC (just plain Chess Club) message board might
>best serve the interests of ICD, but I am willing to continue to work
>on and support the CCC as long as interested people are willing to come
>here and discuss computer chess.
>
>That's pretty much it. I am one who believes in getting along and giving
>in when necessary. I like peace (must be something wrong with me). If you
>read the posts here in CCC in the last few days, you will be able to see
>others who share my views. This is, by no means, a hopeless situation.
>
>I take this opportunity to invite everyone who cares about peace and
>computer chess to come back to the board, and talk about computer chess.
>I am confident that moderators and members alike agree that is
>our goal.
>
>I challenge those who have left us recently or in the past to come
>back and help allow the CCC to reach its full potential.
>- Steve (ICD/Your Move)

Nice to see someone's got some balls around here.

Will



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