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Subject: Re: DB Chip will kill all comercial programs or.....

Author: Robert Pope

Date: 06:58:12 05/13/99

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On May 13, 1999 at 09:14:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 13, 1999 at 09:10:05, Torstein Hall wrote:
>
>>I think a DB chip will kill all the Fritzes, Rebels, Nimzos, Juniors and Hiarcs
>>of this world. What is the point in developing, or buying, something that is a
>>lot weaker than the "Micro Monster" :-)
>>
>>But perhaps it could be made with a programming interface, letting other
>>programs use it for search, and add their own evaluation functions etc.?
>>
>>Torstein
>
>
>This can't be done...  the _hardware_ does the eval, and the last N plies
>of the tree search.  All that could be modified would be the first few plies
>of the search, (and the extensions) since that part is done in software.  But
>the "guts" of the thing will _always_ be deep blue.  It can only evaluate the
>things that the hardware was built to do, and no more.  The search and
>quiescence search can only behave like the chip is built with no flexibility.
>
>
>Evaluation weights can be changed, but new things can't be added...  so no
>matter what you do, you end up with a 'deep blue' program...
>
>Bob

In theory, though, how feasible might it be for Hsu to create a modified DB
"searcher" chip that just did the make/unmake part of the search?  When it gets
to the eval part, instead of the lightning-fast hardware eval, it sends out
current position information, and waits for a software eval to be returned.  I
know a software eval would cause a huge performance hit, but wouldn't the faster
move generation and tree travel still give it a nice advantage over a pure
software program?

I remember the article mentioned something about a hardware trap-door in the
chip that could potentially be used to add a missed eval feature to the search.
It seems like that idea ought to be extendable to adding a software evaluation
or evaluation supplement.

Rob



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