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Subject: Re: DB Chip will kill comercials.....but Not CM6000, maybe not Fritz

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 12:43:05 05/13/99

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On May 13, 1999 at 15:24:56, Roger D Davis wrote:

>I agree that a DB Jr. kills the market for Rebel, Fritz, etc., but this market
>is really very small. The average consumer has no need for a $200 (speculation,

The ChessBase programs are at DM 98. Thats more like $70!! I belive Rebel is in
the same price range!

>not fact) DB thingy, so there will always be a market for a program that's cheap
>and has a great interface and is FUN to play. And fun doesn't equate with
>strength. Who wants to get crushed over and over again in the same style?
>Nobody. We buy programs that kick our butts and then dumb them down so we can
>beat them. So would you rather have a dumbed down Fritz or a dumbed down DB?
>Doesn't really matter, because when FUN moves into the foreground, the
>commercials and DB are equally strong...just strong enough to give the user some
>fun, and no more.

It all depends what you are using your program for, I mainly use it for
analysing games, then you want to have correct lines in 0 time!

But with a program comming out with superior hardware, its impossible for the
Fritzes and Rebels to get the income to continue developing!

Torstein


>
>So...you're gonna see CM6000 (or 7000 or whatever) at the low end, and DB at the
>high end, if they can provide an interface that will compete with Fritz. If not,
>you're gonna see DB and Fritz split the high end, because there will be some
>people, like me, who just won't play anything with an aweful interface, no
>matter how bad it can crush me. Even if it plays like god. LOL.
>
>So if DB Jr is for real, and the interface is good, then I'd argue that only
>Fritz has a chance of surviving, since it is the only commercial that appears to
>have a chance of graduating into the mass market (extreme Chess did have some
>success).
>
>Roger
>
>
>
>On May 13, 1999 at 09:10:05, Torstein Hall wrote:
>
>>I think a DB chip will kill all the Fritzes, Rebels, Nimzos, Juniors and Hiarcs
>>of this world. What is the point in developing, or buying, something that is a
>>lot weaker than the "Micro Monster" :-)
>>
>>But perhaps it could be made with a programming interface, letting other
>>programs use it for search, and add their own evaluation functions etc.?
>>
>>Torstein



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