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Subject: Re: DB Chip will kill all comercial programs or.....

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:17:12 05/13/99

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On May 13, 1999 at 11:19:02, Chris Carson wrote:

>On May 13, 1999 at 09:14:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 1999 at 09:10:05, Torstein Hall wrote:
>>
>>>I think a DB chip will kill all the Fritzes, Rebels, Nimzos, Juniors and Hiarcs
>>>of this world. What is the point in developing, or buying, something that is a
>>>lot weaker than the "Micro Monster" :-)
>>>
>>>But perhaps it could be made with a programming interface, letting other
>>>programs use it for search, and add their own evaluation functions etc.?
>>>
>>>Torstein
>>
>>
>>This can't be done...  the _hardware_ does the eval, and the last N plies
>>of the tree search.  All that could be modified would be the first few plies
>>of the search, (and the extensions) since that part is done in software.  But
>>the "guts" of the thing will _always_ be deep blue.  It can only evaluate the
>>things that the hardware was built to do, and no more.  The search and
>>quiescence search can only behave like the chip is built with no flexibility.
>>
>>
>>Evaluation weights can be changed, but new things can't be added...  so no
>>matter what you do, you end up with a 'deep blue' program...
>>
>>Bob
>
>Bob,
>
>I enjoy reading your very insightful and enlightening posts.  DB "the chip"
>will raise the bar for computer chess.
>
>My queston is, do you think that HSU might consider DB "the chip" as
>an engine for a commercial gui?  It would be DB "the chip" all the way,
>but would plug into a GUI (winboard for example, or something like that)
>or do you think HSU will want to market a front end for DB "the chip",
>keep it completly separate from all other commercial products?
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson


It is not something I have talked to him about, unfortunately.  IE when we
communicate it is generally about chess-related things, not marketing-related
things.  We did have a long conversation about this a few years ago, but no
real 'meat' was discussed, just the idea of a "pc board" that could be plugged
in...

The question would be that either one of the two statements is true:

(1) Hsu wants to design the hardware chip, PCI interface and put together
a basic chess program to drive the hardware.  If this is true, then he would
likely be very interested in becoming an 'engine' for some existing GUI.

(2) Hsu's 'start-up' company wants the entire pie. IE they want to develop
the entire kit and kaboodle, from GUI to engine to database program.  Either
way would be reasonable.  but (2) would take a lot of time.




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