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Subject: Re: The Phantom Menace (DB the chip)

Author: Micheal Cummings

Date: 02:24:14 05/14/99

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On May 13, 1999 at 11:34:23, Chris Carson wrote:

>Potential Advosary:  DB the chip
>                     30M NPS single chip, up to 4 supported
>                     estimated price $200 single chip
>                     strength: strong GM at tournament time controls
>
>How do the win/tel programs strike back?
>
>Let's discuss some proposals.  Here are couple of my
>suggestions:
>
>1.  Create xxxx the chip.  where xxxx is Fritz, Hiarcs, Rebel, Crafty, ...
>2.  Multi-processor versions of current programs.
>3.  Hybrid solutions - chip accelerators, multiprocessor, ...
>4.  Play on weakness (if any), ie- DB the chip may be more expensive
>    than $200.00, or DB the chip may not be as fast/strong as
>    expected (DB beat commercials 38:2, but commercials were running
>    on pentium 90 machines, both s/w and h/w will be much faster/
>    stronger when DB the chip is released than the P90.) also, once
>    DB the chip is on the market, everyone will get a chance to play/
>    analyze and exploit it's weakness, every program/machine has
>    some. :)
>
>I am sure we can come up with a few more suggestions.  Ok, take pot
>shots at my suggestions, but I hope the commercial programmers are
>reading this.  HSU is a great scientist, but he is not the only person
>that can create a hardware solution.  :)
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson

I will only say a few words, Lets see how DB performs when it has not got a
super computer behind it.

Plus what will be the interface and features. As I read somewhere else, most
commercials beat 99.9% of the people buy top commercial software anyway, So yes
it would have to do better than just strength.

Plus I am still a bit confused, the chip will be the chess engine, if so does
that mean that if their are faults with the play or if they upgrade the chess
playing of the chip  that a new chip will have to be purchased.

It would be a shame if  weakness is found and then the chip would become pretty
useless. I am sure programmers of other software would be able to tweak their
engines to exploit this in tournament, where are a ungrade patch for the engine
for any other program would fix this.

I would just like to see the top engines of today programmed for a super
computer and then we might be able to see how good the guy who programmed deep
blue in the first place did. I think it would be still hard pressed to beat some
top guys. I mean the last DB / Kasparov match was a bit of a joke, with
accusations galore and very pathetic play by Kasparov.



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