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Subject: Re: DB Junior

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 13:22:26 05/14/99

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On May 14, 1999 at 09:46:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 14, 1999 at 03:19:35, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 1999 at 09:34:30, Alvaro Polo wrote:
>>
>>>I understand that games played by DB besides Kasparov's match are secret, but
>>>that DB Junior played many public games.
>>>
>>>My question is, are those games by DB Junior available on the Internet? Has
>>>somebody analized them to see if the play is clearly better than that of
>>>currently available chess software?
>>
>>No they are not available, only a rumour to have crushed the 2 top programs with
>>10-0. Oh, sorry, no rumour, Hsu claims all that. :-)
>>And no hint which 2 programs have been crushed...
>
>
>There is more information.  The two programs were rebel and genius.  This was
>reported here by someone that attended a talk by either Hsu or Campbell and they
>asked.  Second, 10-0 was the tip of the iceberg.  It was actually 38-2, as
>reported in IEEE Micro in the current issue.  And finally, DB Junior played
>dozens of public games.  At two consecutive Supercomputing conferences I walked
>into the tournament hall and found it playing GM players like Robert Byrne (to
>name just one GM).  I believe that Hsu reported that DB Junior's performance
>rating over a whole bunch of games was 2750 or something close.  Deep Thought
>II produced a 40/2hr performance rating over 2650 to take the final Fredkin
>prize.  So there is _plenty_ of data about the machine...  And it is all pretty
>impressive data to boot..

Hi!
Quite impressive it´s +480 points!! Typically these programs performs around
2500 in tournament chess and 2650-2700 in speed-chess. So the suspected rating
could (should) be about 3000-3200. Good win by Soltis (2405) in g/15. Is this a
advertisment or could we suspect DB-Junior to bee far superior to it´s big
brother.

Bertil SSDF



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