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Subject: Re: Top Programs under 2600 elo !!!!!! Look Clemens Allwermann 2630 elo

Author: blass uri

Date: 13:39:13 05/15/99

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On May 15, 1999 at 14:01:39, odell hall wrote:

>
>On May 15, 1999 at 12:38:46, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On May 15, 1999 at 11:27:17, jose hernandez wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>He plays at secret with Fritz5.32 in a Good Germany Tournament and he won!
>>>
>>>
>>>He doesnt lose a simple game. All the moves that he played you can reproduced
>>>with your Fritz5.32
>>>
>>>A machine was Pentium II 350 MHZ and he archieved a 2630 elo !
>>>
>>>Top programs are under 2550 to 2650 in tournaments controls 40/2.
>>>
>>>Many pepole said that the top programs ( 2450 elo ) But this is false ..
>>>
>>>2450 is weaker, I Think that a top program could beat any 2450 Master Today..
>>>
>>>If you have some opinions i like to see.
>>
>>I think that it depends on the player.
>>
>>A top program can beat 2650 player that is weak against computers because
>>he does not train by playing against computers and is not aware to the weakness
>>of computers.
>>
>>At the same time it can lose against 2450 player that knows how to get advantage
>>from the weaknesses of computer programs.
>>
>>Uri
>
>  Hi Uri
>
>
>  Could you produce the games where a 2450 elo rated master has beaten the top
>programs at 40/2hr on the fastest hardware?  I see that Hergot 2485 who has tons
>of experience playing computers got totally humiliated by hiarcs6, and this was
>running on a ancient pent200!!!
I know that Junior4.9 on p333 lost against IM alex kraiz one year ago and drew
against FM boris mariasin
Junior drew against 3 GM's in the same tournament.

I remeber that the rating of mariasin is only 23xx.
I am not sure about kraiz's rating but I am sure his rating was not 25xx.

I do not know about many games of 2450 players against top programs on the
fastest hardware but I believe that there are 2450 players who can beat top
programs at tournament time control.

Uri





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