Author: Mark Young
Date: 16:45:52 05/18/99
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On May 18, 1999 at 01:44:17, Dave Gomboc wrote: >On May 18, 1999 at 00:11:31, Mark Young wrote: > >>On May 17, 1999 at 22:03:46, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On May 17, 1999 at 21:41:31, Mark Young wrote: >>>[snip] >>>> >>>>Hiarcs7 found the BM moves best, and in a very short time. >>>> >>>>0 9->29 398s d1-d2 c6xd4 d2xd4 c8-d7 o-o-o f8-e7 f1-b5 o-o +.94 >>>> >>>>1 10->30 303s c1-e3 c8-f5 g1-f3 e7-e6 f1-e2 f8-b4 +.36 >>>> >>>>2 9->29 215s d7-d5 d2-d3 e5xf4 e4xd5 c3xd5 d8xd5 c1xf4 +.36 >>>Unfortunately, if you give Hiarcs a hint, it will quit as soon as the move looks >>>better than the others. It may well have changed its mind later, if it were to >>>continue processing. I consider Hiarcs useless if you actually give it the bm >>>hint. A serious bug in the way that it processes data. Give it a stupid move >>>for bm and see if it still finds the positions in question as best. >> >>Good, now I hope the reverse is true also, since I gave hiarcs7 no bm. I set up >>the position, and ran it in monitor mode, and no it did not change its mind. >>This is now the second time Hiarcs7 as solved your positions, and for the second >>time you dismiss its results, for no reason but your own. >> >>Others can confirm that Hiarcs7 can find the BM without knowing the BM. > >The point is that it does a "find and stop" instead of a "find and keep >searching until the time limit expires (whatever that may be)", so you don't >know if it would have retained the move or if it was just an aberration. > >Searching it without providing a best move is adequate, of course. I know this, and is why I do not search this way. My point was he never asked, and the last time he still rejected hiarcs7, even though Hiarcs7 was the only program to find the BM, and no I did not give it the BM that time either. The last time Dann rejected Hiarcs7 results because he did not like the score produced by Hiarcs7, even though its line of play was correct, and hiarcs7 was the only program to find the BM. If someone can tell me the logic behind rejecting Hiarcs7 results, only because it can solve some postions in a negitive way, meaning seeing that all other move lose quickly thus finding the BM in a negitive way. To me both ways of finding a correct move have equal weight, seeing the one move that wins, or seeing that all other moves are clearly worse thus finding the best move. > >Dave
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