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Subject: Re: Is this where the 174 bit minimal figure comes from?

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 12:15:31 05/19/99

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On May 19, 1999 at 11:32:51, Heiner Marxen wrote:

>On May 18, 1999 at 08:02:09, Peter Klausler wrote:
>
>>On May 17, 1999 at 21:15:59, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>You would also need to store e.p. square, if any, I think. Ten bits more
>>>[5ep+4castle+1stm]gives 174 bits.
>>
>>Two bits are all you need for the en passant file, actually.
>>There can be at most four pawns of the opponent on his
>>fourth rank next to a pawn of the player (on his fifth).
>
>Wrong.  There can be 5 such pawns.  E.g. 8/8/8/8/PpPPpPPp/8/8/8 b -
>Even when we know already that there is an e.p. possible, we still
>have to distinguish up to at least 5 cases.

No, you only need 1 ep bit (based on the structure that this original statement
was made). Because, if ep exists, then you can add 4 more bits to the structure
to represent the square involved (3 bits) and the direction of capture (1 bit, a
file to b file, or b file to a file type of thing) and you can remove 6 bits
from the original structure for the pawn that can be taken by ep and the pawn
that can take (if you have 2 pawns that can take, you do not care since the
other one still shows up in the original structure). Hence, an en-passant case
takes up 2 bits less (+4 -6) than a non-en-passant case.

So, only 1 ep bit is needed.

KarinsDad :)



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