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Subject: Re: u2600 Club ICC Rating List - May 17

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 14:53:49 05/19/99

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On May 19, 1999 at 15:01:20, KarinsDad wrote:

>On May 18, 1999 at 21:20:10, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On May 18, 1999 at 09:29:52, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>On May 18, 1999 at 09:08:45, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>>
>>>>A different thing: currently I experiment with using the number of searched
>>>>nodes for each move in the root search to sort the move list. I know that Bob
>>>>and Bruce are doing this too. Anybody else? Any experiences?
>>>>
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>Steffen.
>>>
>>>I tried this and it didn't help me much. My approach is to retain the list
>>>of moves at the root and keep track of the score for each one. This is a bit
>>>more complex, but it works well for my program.
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>
>>I use the method given by Steffen.  Seems to result in better move ordering for
>>me.  btw, how do you get the score for root moves that aren't the best move?
>>
>>Will
>
>I do not know how Andrew does it, but you could fake your program out into
>thinking the root node was each position one ply down (temporarily) and getting
>an "actual" score for each move that way (but this may mess up a lot of your
>other search code).
>
>KarinsDad :)


Hi Will, KD.

What I did was just to use the score that came back. And of course, this
shouldn't work very well. But it's just one of those things in my program
that seemed to work even if I knew intellectually that it ought not to.
BUT I've just reimplemented the nodes trick. I tried a few test sets and
got no real difference. A 120-game match against my original program,
however, resulted in a big win for the nodes version (which I now suspect
I implemented incorrectly before). I'll try a longer game with longer times
later on to see if I can confirm this result. So once again, a discussion
in CCC results in a potential improvement for PostModernist. Thanks, Will.

Andrew


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