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Subject: Re: DB Chip will kill all comercial programs or.....

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:37:15 05/21/99

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On May 21, 1999 at 12:26:12, James B. Shearer wrote:

>On May 20, 1999 at 00:19:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>I see no reason to continue the argument.  Because it will be resolved outside
>>our control anyway.  He said "it is possible that by 2000"...  that gives him
>>19 months to deliver the thing.  Either he will or he won't.  I've _never_ seen
>>Hsu say "I can do A by B" and then not have "A" running by time "B".  I assume
>>he hasn't changed.
>>
>>But that is just my opinion...  If it isn't available within 19 months I will
>>be surprised.  If it isn't produced ever, I will be amazed.  The DB group has
>>_never_ been into "vaporware"...
>
>          Well as a reality check, I would suggest rereading Hsu's 1990
>Scientific American article ("A Grandmaster Chess Machine", by F. Hsu, T.
>Anantharaman, M. Campbell and A. Nowatzyk, Scientific American, October 1990, p.
>44-50).  Some quotes from the last page:
>          "... The machine we have in mind will therefore examine more than a
>billion positions per second, ... .  If the observed relation between processing
>speed and playing strength holds, the next generation machine will play at a
>3400 level, about 800 points above today's Deep Thought and 500 points above
>Kasparov's rating record."
>          "We believe the system will be strong enough, by virtue of its speed
>alone, to mount a serious challenge to the world champion.  We further believe
>that the addition of other planned improvements will enable the machine to
>prevail, perhaps as soon as 1992."
>          Obviously with hindsight this was optimistic.
>                               James B. Shearer


Looks like the last quoted sentence was dead on, although the date was missed
a bit.  But he didn't say 'guaranteed to prevail no later than 1992' he said
"  we believe ...  perhaps as soon as..."  Which I would say ended up pretty
prophetic?

In in 1997 they 'delivered'.  They were able to peak at over 1B nodes per
second (480 chess processors X 2.0~2.4M nodes per second per processor is
well beyond that).  They did beat the world champion, not "just mount a serious
challenge to him."




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