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Subject: Re: Rebel 10's tactical blindness....

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 02:19:11 05/23/99

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On May 22, 1999 at 21:51:18, Chuck wrote:

>On May 22, 1999 at 20:59:35, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>In the game played today with GM Rohde's we have another example of Rebel 10's
>>tactical blindness with its 26th move f4. This is just the latest example of
>>Rebel 10's tendancy to miss tactics that other programs understand with ease. I
>>understand that all programs miss some tactics from time to time, but Rebel 10's
>>frequency of tactical blindness is perplexing to me. It misses stuff that other
>>programs see in seconds, even after playing a blunder its evaluation my not drop
>>for many moves before understanding the danger.
>>
>>In the latest example I gave the position to Rebel 9, it had no problem seeing
>>that both 26. f4 and Bxb7 lose quickly and playing the correct 26. Bg2 as other
>>programs play.
>>
>>On the other hand even after the move 26 f4, Rebel 10 still think it has an
>>advantage for almost 4 mins, before seeing the error of 26. f4.
>>
>>Is this tactical blindness a bug in Rebel 10, or a justifiable design choice to
>>let rebel strengthen other areas of its play?
>
>Probably only Ed Schroder can answer your question, but I don't think that
>Rebel 10 was that much out 'on it's own'. It takes Fritz 5 better than 2 minutes
>on my AMD K6-2 350 to select Bg2 (I didn't officially time this). But Robert
>Hyatt mentions that some strong players (GM's?) stated that White is lost after
>Bg2 as well. I see that Bg2 relieves the threat of a Black Queen check on the
>1st rank, or rather the mate threat involved there, and studying the position
>from there I would hazard that White might hold. If someone gets any Grandmaster
>analysis I would like to see it posted. Of course, I've lost games myself
>following grandmaster analysis before, but as this game shows, it's still the
>best opinion we have.
>
>Chuck

I thought I saw someone post the win after Bg2 in one of the posts here.  But I
don't recall which, sorry. :-)  You can scan through them if you are desperate,
I guess.

Dave


Dave



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