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Subject: Re: an idea to test positional understanding of chess programs.

Author: blass uri

Date: 14:05:04 05/24/99

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On May 24, 1999 at 16:34:19, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On May 24, 1999 at 16:04:36, blass uri wrote:
>
>>The idea is to do a match between chess programs at tournament time control when
>>both sides have the right to take back moves(they will use it  if they discover
>>that they do a tactical mistake).
>>
>>Every program lose 5 minutes in the time  when it take back a move
>>and the opponent earns 5 minutes.
>>
>>Programmers should change their program to consider take back but I do not think
>>that it is a big change.
>>
>>It is logical to tell the program to calculate if to take back a move only when
>>there is a big change in the evaluation against it and it can be productive only
>>if the mistake was a tactical mistake(otherwise it should take back many moves
>>to avoid losing and it will lose on time because it is losing 5 minutes for
>>every take back).
>>
>>What is your opinion about it?
>Won't adding takeback artifically inflate the apparent ability?  It also seems
>to me that the most clever implementation of takeback will come out the winner.

I agree that a better implementation can also help, but the main point is that
the take back can help in cases of tactical mistakes that you understand after a
small number of moves that you are in trouble.

If the position of one program (with better positional understanding) is going
to improve slowly then the opponent will have no idea when it went wrong so the
take back is not going to help it.

Uri



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