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Subject: Re: Rebel: a possible reason for the new interface

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 15:52:00 05/26/99

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On May 26, 1999 at 17:17:42, Robert Pawlak wrote:

Dear Robert:
It is not question of "teeth knashing", but just the fair demands of faithful
customer that want to see the very best gui for one of the very best programs. I
did not intend to begin a thread about this to disturb nobody, less Ed, but on
the contrary to help him because surely now has a better judgement of what we,
customers, want and expect from him. This is far better that to face criticism
AFTER the product is in the shells and nothing can be done.
Of course, also, I know, all of us know, Ed decided this because some good
reasons and we can specualte a lot, as you do, about that. Nobody has said Ed
did this just to bother us, as a matter of whimsical will. Nevertheless, is our
"task" as customers and even friends of the man to say him straight what we
thinks of his ideas and decisions. I truly expected -as many here- a wonderful
gui in the level rebel is wonderful as a program. That means beauty, elegance,
etc, even whistles and bells you are not compelled to use. But besides the bells
are a lot of things aditional to what is now a commodity in the business and
that I expected from a rebel windows gui and nothing of that appears connected
to the decision to use the Cp Gui.
I really hope Ed will do a great job to improve the stuff, but,, if he do that,
it will be partially at least because we  told him the thing as it is now is not
the thing for rebel.
fernando


There's been an awful lot of teeth knashing concerning the new Rebel-CP. While
>there is some justification for this, consider that there may be some very good
>reasons for Ed's decision to go this route.
>
>Has it occured to anyone that Ed may still be developing his own windows GUI for
>Rebel? Possibly (and this is only conjecture at this point), this development
>may be occuring in parallel with that of rebel-CP. Perhaps the schedule slipped
>on the rebel-developed version, and Ed was forced to take measures to placate
>the people that were told there would be a windows version of Rebel this summer.
>
>In any case, this would be an honorable decision on his part. His customers get
>an improved engine and windows interface, at the time that it was promised. Ed
>gets to pay everyone's salary and continue development of a standalone Rebel for
>windows.
>
>The CP interface is not all that bad. It does not stack up to Fritz, but few
>programs do. It still has most of the features that people need, including
>support for variations, and opening book tools. Asking for Rebel to produce a CB
>compatible engine will not make it happen. Ed has stated many times in the past
>(in no uncertain terms) that this would not be an option.
>
>Furthermore, the CP interface will at least have a decent 2-D board, which took
>Chessmaster YEARS to develop. The lack of 3D and other unecessary features
>should not really be an issue. Rebel's strong point has always been it's playing
>style, and this should be unobscured by the UI.
>
>Really, I think people are going a bit overboard on this.
>
>Bob P.



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