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Subject: Re: Does Rebel 10.5 Represent the Current State of the Art?

Author: blass uri

Date: 05:18:59 05/27/99

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On May 27, 1999 at 05:42:28, Harald Faber wrote:

>On May 25, 1999 at 19:27:00, Paulo Soares wrote:
>
>>>Right, I don't know how strong a chess player with ELO1800 is, I just have a
>>>guess. I am at 1800DWZ, our best club player has 2000DWZ and an ELO2200.
>>>I see a lot in analysis but when this guy starts to play/analyze I am astonished
>>>again and again how much more he sees and realizes.
>>
>>Harald,
>>
>>It makes the following experience: ask for somebody to choose 5
>>positions, of preference closed, and tries to make the analysis of
>>those positions with the aid of some program of which you likes, for
>>one hour. After that ask for the best player of his club making the
>>analysis of the same positions, in the same time, without using a
>>program. I bet with you a beer(man talk that Germany beer is
>>excellent), as his analyses will be very better.
>>Paulo Soares
>
>What do you bet? That the program's analysis is better?
>Then I can say you already lost, I did it with OPEN (!) positions, see the game
>Gambitsoft-Forum vs IM Hans Klarenbeek, game still to go on.
>HUMANS (in my club) came up with GOOD, JUSTIFIED and REASONABLE move suggestions
>and IDEAS. Programs only had stupid move suggestions (or even worse ideas), e.g.
>16.Nf5 and 16.g5 were suggested. 16.g5 might have been a considerable move but
>16.Nf5 is not.

I think that he does not say that the program's analysis is better but that the
analysis of the team of human with 1800 rating + program is better.

Uri




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