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Subject: Re: A question for the group...

Author: Gaylord Cohen

Date: 10:48:19 05/29/99

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On May 28, 1999 at 21:32:38, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>
>On May 28, 1999 at 11:51:53, Gaylord Cohen wrote:
>
>>On May 28, 1999 at 00:32:27, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>On May 27, 1999 at 23:09:48, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>>But I think these days the best way for 99% of people to improve in chess is to
>>>>play against a program. Cause you can play anytime you want. And you will never
>>>>become shy if you lose. Like some people do when they lose against another
>>>>person.
>>>>
>>>>Not everyone has the time to get coached, or to go to a chess club, and most of
>>>>the time all your other family members hate the game. And these days you can >get a GM level play out of the top programs. And if you have programs like
>>>>Chessmaster 6000, you get a whole lot of nice features to keep you interested.
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>I am going to have to disagree with your comment.  People in general will
>>>benefit far more from playing against a stronger human, who can actually explain
>>>to them why they are losing.  If you can find someone 300 elo points higher than
>>>you to play games with, or go over your tournament games with, you have a far
>>>better chance of being able to profit than if you were just to play a machine
>>>repeatedly.
>>>
>>>I suspect the balance might change a bit when you reach 2400 or so, at that
>>>point there are not so many people around who are 300 points better than you,
>>>and you already understand enough about chess that you can benefit from playing
>>>a computer serious 40/2 games and annotating them afterward.
>>>
>>>But ask a 2400 player :-)
>>>
>>>Dave
>>But Dave, I usually can't find anyone else to coach me on the strategic and
>>tactical aspects of chess. And I can't get to a chess club, because I don't
>>drive(Of course,I might catch a bus to one, but getting back home by taxi is
>>just too darned expensive!). So, perhaps a program like Chessmaster 6000 may be
>>the
>>answer---for me anyway. Or, I can do some research on the Web for chess
>>information on tactics and strategy. Perhaps I should start a chess club of
>>my own. Those are just a few of my ideas. What do YOU think I should do? Please
>>let me know---I'm open to ALL suggestions. :-)
>>
>>---Gaylord
>
>Well Dave really had nothing do disagree with me about actually. I did say not
>all people can get coached or find peope to play against. So he was just going
>over my points again. The best way is to learn high level chess being mentored
>by a computer. But if you cannot get that then you only have a computer to play
>with, so you will have to learn on your own.
>
>As for making your own chess club, sure why not. If you are able to get people
>together to play games then go for it. But get a program as well. For you CM6K
>or fritz would do the job. CM6000 has features that would make it more fun to
>play with and it looks better. Some will argue here. There is nolthing wrong
>with either program. But go for CM6K. I am sure many will advise you on other
>progams that they like.
Sure thing! I'll be sure to ask my wife to get CM6000...perhaps for my birthday
this year! :-)
-Gaylord



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