Author: Melvin S. Schwartz
Date: 15:12:26 05/29/99
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On May 29, 1999 at 15:06:14, Hans Christian Lykke wrote: >On May 29, 1999 at 14:05:29, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: > >> >>On May 29, 1999 at 11:16:22, Dave Gomboc wrote: >> >>>On May 29, 1999 at 10:09:02, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>I don't understand how you can seriously give credence to this match when you >>>>are running Nimzo on superior hardware. The advantage of Nimzo on a Pentium 200 >>>>MMX is not to be taken lightly. Regardless, Hiarcs 6 is outdated by Hiarcs 7 and >>>>the Hash tables in Hiarcs 7 is much higher than what you listed for Hiarcs 6. My >>>>main point is that when testing chess programs, you should test them on the SAME >>>>type of computer. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Mel >>> >>>No, he shouldn't. He should report the speed of the processor and the version >>>of the software, just as he has. >> >>If you support this kind of testing, good luck on trying to get meaningful >>evaluations. I think you're getting into more of a hypothetical circumstance >>here with uneven testing. >> > >>>"Hiarcs 6, P90", "Hiarcs 7, P200MMX", and "Hiarcs 7, K2-450" are all different >>>entities that can be expected to have significantly different ratings. That a >>>newer hardware/software combination exists does not make it invalid or even >>>useless to assess the strength of an older one. >> >>I believe Nimzo 99 is a newer program than Hiarcs 6. If that is the case, it >>would futher support uneven testing. How many people would be interested in how >>Hiarcs 6 does against..as opposed to Hiarcs 7 against...?. Furthermore, who is >>still selling Hiarcs 6??? >> >>I'm not saying there is absolutely no purpose in testing outdated software, but >>rather time and testing could be put to better use. >> > >I have two P200MMX computers and one P90 >Sometimes I use one of the P200 to other things than playing SSDF games. >To get more SSDF games, I then play P200 against P90. >I will continue that way, no matter what you say. > >Venlig hilsen > >Hans Chr. Lykke >http://home3.inet.tele.dk/hclykke/ I think if you ask the programmers of Rebel, Hiarcs, Fritz, and probably all the rest, you'll find a great deal of displeasure at testing in this fashion. At a chess site called Shep's, software tournaments are held at 40/2 with all programs running on the SAME hardware. You can test programs anyway you like, but if it's validity you're looking for - I suggest you check out Shep's. Truly I don't mean to offend you, I am merely expressing my opinion - it's just how I feel. I do not like testing of an uneven nature - it is destructive to logic. Regards, Mel
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