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Subject: Re: Nimzo99 MMX - Hiarcs 6 P90 SSDF game 12/20 1-0 Now: 10 - 2

Author: Micheal Cummings

Date: 01:26:47 05/30/99

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On May 29, 1999 at 17:52:38, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:

>
>On May 29, 1999 at 15:35:42, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>
>>On May 29, 1999 at 10:09:02, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I don't understand how you can seriously give credence to this match when you
>>>are running Nimzo on superior hardware. The advantage of Nimzo on a Pentium 200
>>>MMX is not to be taken lightly. Regardless, Hiarcs 6 is outdated by Hiarcs 7 and
>>>the Hash tables in Hiarcs 7 is much higher than what you listed for Hiarcs 6. My
>>>main point is that when testing chess programs, you should test them on the SAME
>>>type of computer.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Mel
>>
>>       For SSDF, Hiarcs 6 running on a P90 is a known entry with an established
>>rating, and it is used to measure the strength of newer entries (like Nimzo 99
>>on an P200).
>>       Testing Hiarcs 6 on a P200 would introduce a new entry with unknown rating,
>>which would require hundreds of test games. And the SSDF does not have enough
>>resources to do that.
>>José.
>
>Hi Jose
>
>Just because the SSDF is doing that with Hiarcs 6 doesn't mean I have to agree
>with it. There's a chess site named Shep's where computer tournaments are held
>at 40/2 and ALL computers are playing against each other on the SAME hardware. I
>consider that method to be far superior to what you're talking about - which to
>me means you are leaving a lot to mere conjecture. I am most interested in
>obtaining information based on testing that will come as close to reality as
>possible. This of course is my opinion.
>
>By the way, the last time I looked at the SSDF rating list, it appeared that all
>computers were tested against each other on the same hardware - perhaps I am
>wrong about that. However, given the testing you describe versus Shep's testing,
>I would not hesitate to say that Shep's results are more meaningful.
>
>Regards,
>mel

All the top newer programs are. And what was said above is the reason why older
program are not. Lack of resorces and time. I think you should look into what
the SSDF have and how they operate. And if you can find anyone who can do what
they do, then I am sure they would love the results.



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