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Subject: Re: Nimzo99 MMX - Hiarcs 6 P90 SSDF game 12/20 1-0 Now: 10 - 2

Author: Melvin S. Schwartz

Date: 08:24:22 05/30/99

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On May 30, 1999 at 04:22:59, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>
>On May 29, 1999 at 10:09:02, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>
>>
>>I don't understand how you can seriously give credence to this match when you
>>are running Nimzo on superior hardware. The advantage of Nimzo on a Pentium 200
>>MMX is not to be taken lightly. Regardless, Hiarcs 6 is outdated by Hiarcs 7 and
>>the Hash tables in Hiarcs 7 is much higher than what you listed for Hiarcs 6. My
>>main point is that when testing chess programs, you should test them on the SAME
>>type of computer.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mel
>
>Mel you must be new here, this is an old topic. Simply put when the calculations
>are done. Hiarcs6 has played many games, and they know how strong it is on a
>P90. So just because Nimzo99 is beating it easily, say for i9nstance 20:5 for
>Nimzo99 over Hiarcs6, when the calulations are done, it might end up hurting
>Nimzo99, cause it should have beaten it say 20:2 to actually gain any points
>improvements. So it may actually lose points beating the program 20:5.

Hello Micheal

I still disagree. When you say they know of the variables associated with
playing programs on processors of different speeds, I see conclusions based on
speculation. How accurate is their theory of applying value to A versus B on
slow versus fast processors? It is in my opinion still speculation. I feel
testing software must be done on equal terms to get meaningful results. I don't
like to use the hypothetical when reality exists. It is not impossible to do
testing with computers of equal strength.
 >
>You have a point, but in the end it all works out pretty close.

Close maybe but it's still not the best way to compare software.
>
>Kasparov taking on a player ranked around 2000 elo, will not improve his ranking
>say if he beats someone around 2700, then it will.
>
>So just because it is on slower hardware, and the other is killing it, does not
>mean that the winning program is going to get great points improvement.

The amount of points you speak of is of a hypothetical nature. If you like
comparing software with A at B speed and C at D speed, then we just simply
disagree.

Regards,
Mel
>Regards
>
>Micheal



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