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Subject: Re: Nimzo99 MMX - Hiarcs 6 P90 SSDF game 12/20 1-0 Now: 10 - 2

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 12:20:50 05/30/99

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On May 30, 1999 at 13:15:06, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:

>
>On May 30, 1999 at 12:44:42, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>Mel,
>>
>>Please don't take this as an insult.
>>
>>Do yourself a serious favour, and find a copy of Arpad Elo's "The Rating of
>>Chess Players, Past and Present".  If you are a serious chessplayer, you will no
>>doubt recognize the author's surname.  Pay particular attention to the procedure
>>that was used to determine the initial list of ratings for grandmasters, because
>>it is also the system that SSDF uses to generate their ratings.  If I recall
>>correctly, he also discusses why a large pool of players is preferred to a small
>>one.
>
>Hello Dave
>
>I am interested in comparing software! As Dr. Hyatt put it so clearly - "If
>program A on hardware B beats program D on hardware E - does that say much about
>A compared to B? This belies the principles of science - you have to have a
>uniform platform for all participants to make any kind of judgement".

You've quoted this ad nauseum, but failed to reply to several posts where I
showed that your understanding of what A and B are in the SSDF is lacking.

Recently someone else has questioned the correctness of your attribution of this
quote to Bob, but it doesn't really matter to this discussion insofar as the
comment doesn't apply when a correct interpretation of SSDF results is made.

>That was quoted word for word from his posting on "Uneven Hardware dated
>5/29/99. I understand that to mean in order to get a true evaluation you must
>compare both programs on the same type of proceesor. And that comparing programs
>running at different speeds results in a hypothetical solution. Remember his
>words - "you have to have a uniform platform for all participants to make any
>kind of judgement". Why do you insist on refuting this most logical explanation
>of how to compare programs?
>
>By the way, my post was stated BEFORE I saw Dr. Hyatt's statement!
>
>Regards,
>Mel>

In addition to my comments above, if you want to compare software on equivalent
hardware, then you can compare the ratings for the P200MMX machines, or the P90
machines, or the 486/66 machines, et cetera.

Dave



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