Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 18:22:08 05/30/99
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On May 30, 1999 at 21:01:40, Gaylord Cohen wrote: >On May 29, 1999 at 13:48:19, Gaylord Cohen wrote: > >>On May 28, 1999 at 21:32:38, Micheal Cummings wrote: >> >>> >>>On May 28, 1999 at 11:51:53, Gaylord Cohen wrote: >>> >>>>On May 28, 1999 at 00:32:27, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 27, 1999 at 23:09:48, Micheal Cummings wrote: >>>>> >>>>>[snip] >>>>>>But I think these days the best way for 99% of people to improve in chess is to >>>>>>play against a program. Cause you can play anytime you want. And you will never >>>>>>become shy if you lose. Like some people do when they lose against another >>>>>>person. >>>>>> >>>>>>Not everyone has the time to get coached, or to go to a chess club, and most of >>>>>>the time all your other family members hate the game. And these days you can >get a GM level play out of the top programs. And if you have programs like >>>>>>Chessmaster 6000, you get a whole lot of nice features to keep you interested. >>>>>[snip] >>>>> >>>>>I am going to have to disagree with your comment. People in general will >>>>>benefit far more from playing against a stronger human, who can actually explain >>>>>to them why they are losing. If you can find someone 300 elo points higher than >>>>>you to play games with, or go over your tournament games with, you have a far >>>>>better chance of being able to profit than if you were just to play a machine >>>>>repeatedly. >>>>> >>>>>I suspect the balance might change a bit when you reach 2400 or so, at that >>>>>point there are not so many people around who are 300 points better than you, >>>>>and you already understand enough about chess that you can benefit from playing >>>>>a computer serious 40/2 games and annotating them afterward. >>>>> >>>>>But ask a 2400 player :-) >>>>> >>>>>Dave >>>>But Dave, I usually can't find anyone else to coach me on the strategic and >>>>tactical aspects of chess. And I can't get to a chess club, because I don't >>>>drive(Of course,I might catch a bus to one, but getting back home by taxi is >>>>just too darned expensive!). So, perhaps a program like Chessmaster 6000 may be >>>>the >>>>answer---for me anyway. Or, I can do some research on the Web for chess >>>>information on tactics and strategy. Perhaps I should start a chess club of >>>>my own. Those are just a few of my ideas. What do YOU think I should do? Please >>>>let me know---I'm open to ALL suggestions. :-) >>>> >>>>---Gaylord >>> >>>Well Dave really had nothing do disagree with me about actually. I did say not >>>all people can get coached or find peope to play against. So he was just going >>>over my points again. The best way is to learn high level chess being mentored >>>by a computer. But if you cannot get that then you only have a computer to play >>>with, so you will have to learn on your own. >>> >>>As for making your own chess club, sure why not. If you are able to get people >>>together to play games then go for it. But get a program as well. For you CM6K >>>or fritz would do the job. CM6000 has features that would make it more fun to >>>play with and it looks better. Some will argue here. There is nolthing wrong >>>with either program. But go for CM6K. I am sure many will advise you on other >>>progams that they like. >>Sure thing! I'll be sure to ask my wife to get CM6000...perhaps for my birthday >>this year! :-) >>-Gaylord >Hi. I asked my wife about getting CM6000, but she said, "No. too expensive, but >maybe we'll get something like it, but cheaper." Are there any other programs >out there that are similar to Chessmaster, but lower priced? Your feedback would >be greatly appreciated(and the family budget would benefit as well!). I thank >you. :-) >- Gaylord CM6000 is actually not expensive compared to most software. Did you get your price from a local store? You might consider mail-ordering from ICD (who sponsor this web-board.) I don't think you're going to find any good chess software for substantially less than CM6000: it probably has the highest sales volume of any chess software in the world due to mass-marketing. Dave
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