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Subject: Re: To Mel: you misquoted Dr. Hyatt.

Author: Hans Christian Lykke

Date: 23:05:07 05/30/99

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On May 30, 1999 at 16:18:32, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:

>
>On May 30, 1999 at 14:26:51, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>
>>On May 30, 1999 at 14:23:19, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Mel,
>>>      here it goes a fragment of a post by Dr. Hyatt you are constantly referring in
>>>the thread about SSDF testing:
>>>
>>>----------------------------------------------
>>>On May 27, 1999 at 15:51:59, Prakash Das wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, I still don't understand the point of this "world championship" then. Sure
>>>>, you can call it "hey, if nothing it will be fun", a "test of systems", etc.
>>>>But what are exactly is this exercise trying to prove? If program A on hardware
>>>>B, beats program D on hardware E - does that say much about A compared to B?
>>>>This belies the principles of science - you have to have a uniform platform
>>>>for all participants to make any kind of judgement.
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't understand what you don't understand.  This is an "open" competition.
>>>Anything is allowed.  Any sort of hardware and software combination that can
>>>play chess.  It has _always_ been that way.  It will always be that way.  The
>>>question being asked is "what is the strongest electronic chessplayer on the
>>>planet?"  Not "what is the strongest program?"  Or "Who is best on equal
>>>hardware?"  or anything else...
>>>
>>>----------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>      As you can see, you were attributing to Dr. Hyatt words by Prakash Das.
>>>José.
>>
>>       I forgot to add that this is taken from message number 53426.
>>José.
>
>The fact I used the wrong author does not change my position on this issue. In
>fact, I don't agree that the question is not "what is the strongest program'?
>After all, when people look at ratings, reviews, etc., what do you think they
>want to know? I believe people want to know WHAT IS THE STRONGEST PROGRAM. The
>ONLY way to make a proper judgement on that issue is to compare A against B on
>equal hardware. For your information, the author of the post to which I first
>responded - Hiarcs vs. Nimzo - said I was CORRECT in what I said about comparing
>programs with equal hardware. The problem is as was stated by him was that they
>haven't the resources to do it that way! Not that I was wrong!!!

It´s not only about resources. When we started to play on P200MMX we had to play
against programs which had a know rating on P90, to get a rating for the
programs on P200MMX!!!

So, you are wrong.
And now we are starting to play on K6-2 450 Mhz 128MB - Those programs
we have to play against programs on P200MMX etc. until they have a rating
on K6-2.
Then we can start playing K6-2 against K6-2

Venlig hilsen

Hans Christian Lykke





>
>Furthermore, Shep's site is where you'll find tournaments where programs ARE RUN
>ON EQUAL HARDWARE.
>
>If you like to see testing done with program against program on unequal hardware
>- have a nice day!
>
>Mel



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