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Subject: Re: Nimzo99 MMX - Hiarcs 6 P90 SSDF game 12/20 1-0 Now: 10 - 2

Author: Melvin S. Schwartz

Date: 08:44:15 05/31/99

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On May 30, 1999 at 16:03:40, Daniel Karlsson wrote:

>On May 30, 1999 at 11:24:22, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>
>[Snip]
>>
>>The amount of points you speak of is of a hypothetical nature. If you like
>>comparing software with A at B speed and C at D speed, then we just simply
>>disagree.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mel
>
>Suppose program A on hardware B gets a 70% score against C on D. Now if E on B
>gets a 75% score against C on D, wouldn't that be a good indication that E on B
>is stronger than A on B, i.e. E is stronger than A on the same hardware.
>
>Match AB and EB against several opponents, calculate ratings from the scores and
>you get a pretty good rating list. This is basically what SSDF are doing.

You may get a pretty good idea of a rating but how accurate is it? I suspect we
are dealing with a strong assumption here. It may be the only way that SSDF can
do it, but Shep's site is where you'll find tournaments where programs ARE
competing against each other on EQUAL hardware. Now, I am compelled to believe
Shep's results with more authenticity than SSDF's method. Another problem I have
with SSDF is their opponents for Chessmaster 6000 have an average rating, if
memory serves me well, more than 100 points below that of Hiarcs7 or Fritz 5.32
just to name a few. In my opinion, and this is just my opinion, I believe they
should confine their testing to the top programs because that may allow them to
use the same hardware for all. Also, since we know for example that Hiarcs 7 is
better than Hiarcs 6, why do they continue to test Hiarcs 6? This applies to
other outdated programs as well. Do you see industry extensively testing newer
and better cars, computers, TV's, etc., when it has already been etablished that
new products from the same maufacturer are superior to their older models?

Regards,
Mel




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