Author: Gaylord Cohen
Date: 14:38:52 05/31/99
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On May 30, 1999 at 21:22:08, Dave Gomboc wrote: >On May 30, 1999 at 21:01:40, Gaylord Cohen wrote: > >>On May 29, 1999 at 13:48:19, Gaylord Cohen wrote: >> >>>On May 28, 1999 at 21:32:38, Micheal Cummings wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>On May 28, 1999 at 11:51:53, Gaylord Cohen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 28, 1999 at 00:32:27, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 27, 1999 at 23:09:48, Micheal Cummings wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>[snip] >>>>>>>But I think these days the best way for 99% of people to improve in chess is to >>>>>>>play against a program. Cause you can play anytime you want. And you will never >>>>>>>become shy if you lose. Like some people do when they lose against another >>>>>>>person. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Not everyone has the time to get coached, or to go to a chess club, and most of >>>>>>>the time all your other family members hate the game. And these days you can >get a GM level play out of the top programs. And if you have programs like >>>>>>>Chessmaster 6000, you get a whole lot of nice features to keep you interested. >>>>>>[snip] >>>>>> >>>>>>I am going to have to disagree with your comment. People in general will >>>>>>benefit far more from playing against a stronger human, who can actually explain >>>>>>to them why they are losing. If you can find someone 300 elo points higher than >>>>>>you to play games with, or go over your tournament games with, you have a far >>>>>>better chance of being able to profit than if you were just to play a machine >>>>>>repeatedly. >>>>>> >>>>>>I suspect the balance might change a bit when you reach 2400 or so, at that >>>>>>point there are not so many people around who are 300 points better than you, >>>>>>and you already understand enough about chess that you can benefit from playing >>>>>>a computer serious 40/2 games and annotating them afterward. >>>>>> >>>>>>But ask a 2400 player :-) >>>>>> >>>>>>Dave >>>>>But Dave, I usually can't find anyone else to coach me on the strategic and >>>>>tactical aspects of chess. And I can't get to a chess club, because I don't >>>>>drive(Of course,I might catch a bus to one, but getting back home by taxi is >>>>>just too darned expensive!). So, perhaps a program like Chessmaster 6000 may be >>>>>the >>>>>answer---for me anyway. Or, I can do some research on the Web for chess >>>>>information on tactics and strategy. Perhaps I should start a chess club of >>>>>my own. Those are just a few of my ideas. What do YOU think I should do? Please >>>>>let me know---I'm open to ALL suggestions. :-) >>>>> >>>>>---Gaylord >>>> >>>>Well Dave really had nothing do disagree with me about actually. I did say not >>>>all people can get coached or find peope to play against. So he was just going >>>>over my points again. The best way is to learn high level chess being mentored >>>>by a computer. But if you cannot get that then you only have a computer to play >>>>with, so you will have to learn on your own. >>>> >>>>As for making your own chess club, sure why not. If you are able to get people >>>>together to play games then go for it. But get a program as well. For you CM6K >>>>or fritz would do the job. CM6000 has features that would make it more fun to >>>>play with and it looks better. Some will argue here. There is nolthing wrong >>>>with either program. But go for CM6K. I am sure many will advise you on other >>>>progams that they like. >>>Sure thing! I'll be sure to ask my wife to get CM6000...perhaps for my birthday >>>this year! :-) >>>-Gaylord >>Hi. I asked my wife about getting CM6000, but she said, "No. too expensive, but >>maybe we'll get something like it, but cheaper." Are there any other programs >>out there that are similar to Chessmaster, but lower priced? Your feedback would >>be greatly appreciated(and the family budget would benefit as well!). I thank >>you. :-) >>- Gaylord > >CM6000 is actually not expensive compared to most software. Did you get your >price from a local store? You might consider mail-ordering from ICD (who >sponsor this web-board.) I don't think you're going to find any good chess >software for substantially less than CM6000: it probably has the highest sales >volume of any chess software in the world due to mass-marketing. > >Dave Well, I guess there's no debate about that. I'll tell the missus about ICD's price on CM6K and try to change her mind. But if that doesn't work...well...I can always start my own chess club!(LOL):-) - Gaylord
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