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Subject: Re: Crafty 15_20 vs Crafty16_8

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 14:18:05 06/02/99

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On June 01, 1999 at 21:52:38, Terry Presgrove wrote:

>On June 01, 1999 at 17:05:25, Hristo wrote:
>
>>Has anyone compared the two versions of crafty(15_20 and 16_8)?
>>So far I had them play 6 blitz games and 1 one_hour game(the second one
>>should be done when I get home).
>>The score:
>>Blitz- 15_20 +3 =2 -1
>>       16_8  +1 =2 -3
>>1 hour-15_20 +1 =0 -0
>>      -16_8  +0 =0 -1
>>
>>
>>While the results of a few games are not very important the style
>>of play was in favor of 15_20. It seemed that 16_8 had some problems
>>entering endgame with Bishop and pawns against Bishop\Knight with pawns.
>>FYI I'm interested only in the strength of the engines, so there is no
>>opening-book or endgame database used. To be fair, I set a position
>>from which the programs continue(similar to the Nun test). Otherwise
>>the opening lines are rather funny .. :)))
>>I'm asking this to know if I should keep track of the score.
>>
>>Computer:
>> PII450, 128M Ram, default engine settings.
>> Windows NT.
>>
>>
>>Hristo
>
> I have run a number of tests with v15.20 vs. 16.6 the results
> being mixed. It seems 15.20 played better at 3 0 through 15 0 and
>16.6 breaking even around 30 0 and playing better at 3 hour matches.
> I have been running a number of matches between 16.6 amd 16.8 and
> it also appears 16.8 plays better at faster blitz but I'm getting a different
> result from 30 0 and up 16.6 winning 14-7 so far in 30 0 matches. And
> 3.5 out of 4 at 3hour+ matches.
> This on k6-350 . I recognize this small sample is not sufficient to
> draw a reliable conclusion but these early results seem to indicate 16.6 may
> still be the strongest version at longer time controls on a single cpu machine.
>
> TP

	I do not play hundreds of test games, I only play against the chess engines for
fun. My subjective impression is that crafty 16.6 is the strongest crafty
version; it seems to agree with your findings.
	Bob has said that 16.8 needs lots of tuning, and I think that after the tuning
(which Bob says will take several versions) crafty will get even stronger than
version 16.6
José.



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