Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:59:46 06/06/99
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On June 06, 1999 at 14:41:49, greg moller wrote:
>On June 05, 1999 at 22:41:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 05, 1999 at 21:28:59, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>On June 05, 1999 at 18:15:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 05, 1999 at 15:04:20, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I had the time today to log the top ICC chess programs and read their finger
>>>>>notes as I do from time to time. When I came across Crafty's (Bob Hyatt's finger
>>>>>notes) Bob's finger notes claim Crafty is running on a 486/66 with 4 MB ram, and
>>>>>a 40MB hard drive. At the same time it is using 20GB of EGTB's (Ahhh.
>>>>>compression software.:) )
>>>>>
>>>>>Is this just a joke or some kind of protest or just plain sarcasm for other
>>>>>underreporting their hardware? A possible example Mofongo, claiming to run on a
>>>>>PII 450 and running Crafty has a rating of 3210, at the same time Crafty (bob's
>>>>>crafty) running on qaud Xeon PII 400 has a rating of 2969. {Bob?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yep... it is 'sarcasm'. We have _so_ many liars on ICC, even though I don't
>>>>see the reasoning behind it... ie 'matemaster' is one, but there are many.
>>>>
>>>>Mofongo's machine is actually right... he just only plays GM players at blitz,
>>>>and only at 3 0 or 5 0 time controls, so he is nearly impossible for a GM to
>>>>beat. And when you are very selective in who you play, this happens. IE I'd
>>>>be willing to bet that I could break 3400 if I just wanted to maximize my rating
>>>>without actually trying to 'play better'.
>>>
>>>I'm sure you would win this bet, but if your opponents give up trying to win and
>>>play for a draw instead, maybe you will lose the bet. Read mlbernstein finger
>>>notes. I myself have drawn a half dozen games (unrated) against shredder, cstal
>>>& crafty clones, generally with an exchange sac endgame, interestingly. The
>>>programs can't bring themselves to sac material back to activate their rooks.
>>>Of course, I lose the rest of the time, but I'm sure I am scoring more than my
>>>fair share. By the way, I'm a weak NM too, just like mlbernstein.
>>>
>>>>My 'machine' may change again, too. I might be on a 1mhz Z-80 next time you
>>>>see me there. :)
>>
>>
>>There are more than a few IM's that _only_ go for draws vs crafty. IE you can
>>watch them try to block the pawns up, although it resists that pretty well (but
>>not perfectly).
>>
>>Even GMs do this a lot. Crafty has played Kamsky a bunch of games, and he has
>>often commented that "Against this computer, a draw is a perfectly acceptable
>>outcome, when the attempt to go 1-0 often ends up 0-1". Others try all-out to
>>win, which does make for more interesting chess. And Kamsky generally likes to
>>win also, but he is wise enough to accept draws when winning is not reasonable
>>in some positions...
>
>Hi, Bob
>Are you saying Kamsky is currently playing on ICC ?!
>
>Regards,
>gm
yes he is... :)
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