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Subject: Re: Will next version of Junior have underpromotion code?

Author: blass uri

Date: 02:16:47 06/07/99

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On June 07, 1999 at 00:47:15, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On June 06, 1999 at 14:22:49, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On June 06, 1999 at 11:10:38, Charlie GOLD wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On June 04, 1999 at 12:13:59, Eran wrote:
>>>
>>>>Since Junior5 does not have underpromotion code, I am wondering whether next
>>>>version of Junior, probably Junior 6, will have underpromotion code, won't it?
>>>>Well, basically all strongest chess programs should be 100% state of art, right?
>>>>In other words, since Junior5 does not have underpromotion code, it cannot be
>>>>100% state of art, is it?
>>>>
>>>>Eran
>>>
>>> I wonder how many people have Juionr 5.0 AND have yet to find out that it does
>>>not have underpromotion codes. I did not know this and am grateful to have found
>>>out. This is unpardonable for a top program to NOT have this. I reckon I, and
>>>others, will have to test this on other programs from now on.  charlie
>>
>>It is more easy to say that it should have underpromotion code then to do it.
>>Amir Ban said that it is not a small change.
>>
>>I tested Junior5 in studies and found that it have also other tactical bugs(I am
>>talking about cases that Junior can never see simple tactics that other programs
>>have no problem to see).
>>
>>Fortunately Junior can practically play very well with these tactical bugs.
>>
>>I told amir ban about all the bugs that I found.
>>I hope that he will be able to solve the problems but it is more easy to
>>discover problems than to solve them.
>>
>>My version Junior5.4 suffers from most of the tactical bugs that I discovered in
>>Junior5.
>>
>>I believe(based on my test games) that it is clearly better than Junior5
>>(the main change relative to Junior5 is in the evaluation function).
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>Can you post some of these bugs?
>
>I bet other program will have them too...
>
>
>    Christophe

Here are some examples for Junior5 tactical bugs

6q1/7k/Q7/8/7K/7B/8/7q w - - 0 1

Junior5 cannot see a simple stalemate combination

8/6p1/4pp2/2k1P2p/1pP1p2P/1K2P3/5PP1/8 b - - 0 1

Junior5 is choosing f5 after a short time(instead of the drawing fxe5) and
believes that it is winning(only after f5 it understand that it was wrong).

8/8/8/8/8/8/pn2K3/B1k5 b - - 0 1

Junior5 plays Kb1 and does not find the winning move and it is not a problem of
time.

Uri



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