Author: Will Singleton
Date: 11:15:24 06/07/99
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On June 07, 1999 at 13:10:58, Paul Richards wrote: >On June 07, 1999 at 11:36:42, Will Singleton wrote: > >>On June 07, 1999 at 10:51:06, Shep wrote: >> >>> >>>I'm not so much into people hiding their identity either, but >>>I don't see so many cases of abuse on CCC that this kind of action seems >>>necessary, especially considering the work involved. >>> >> >>Shep, >> >>I appreciate your comments, and your participation here. Checking IDs and >>restricting free emails would require some work on the part of ICD, maybe quite >>a lot. But consider the work that the moderators have to do to deal with the >>existing problem. >> >>You don't see most of the junk we have to dump. The people who cause problems >>here do so repeatedly, and make the moderators job very difficult. We can't >>tell the legitimate posters from the garbage men. It leads to a kind of siege >>state, the moderators trying to hold back the looney fringe. And good people >>leave, since they are subject to attack, and the board becomes littered with >>inconsequence. > >Which is why worrying about anonymous posting without worrying about >anonymous reading makes no sense. You want to keep the jackoffs out >at the gate, not let them in and then clean up their poop before anyone >sees it. :) Practically it's very difficult. Apart from the vast >numbers of free email domains, my experience on usenet is that the >#1 haven for trolls is your home turf, AOL. Unlike most free email >setups which tend to add traceable header information, AOL gives no >clues whatsoever. Look at your address, "smocfi@aol.com". If you look >on usenet the author name is SMO CFI. Should I send you to the dictionary >to look up the word anonymous? ;) Now it happens that people here already >know you, but that won't be true for everyone. AOL also allows you, >what, ten screen names per account? Please. Not only that but I can >get the one-month-free disks anywhere, sign on to AOL and wreak all sorts >of havoc, then trade to another account a month later. I see it all >the time. My gut feeling is to get frustrated and wish that AOL was >banned from the net. But then all the normal AOL people would suffer. >So why doesn't AOL force people to put their real names? It would be >nice to reduce abuse coming from AOL. I suspect it's the same reason why >we don't require all ISPs to attach the user's SSN to every piece of online >communication. Because proving your identity isn't worth giving the >whole world your personal information, because it can and will be >abused. Funny that Europe has greater safeguards for online privacy, >but it is Mr. Faber from Germany suggesting that we stamp everyone with >an ID. ;) Imagine the fun Rolf could have with his endless fascist >prattle. ;) > >Perhaps there is a way to automate some of the moderation to make it >less of a burden. You make some good points. However, we are talking about CCC here, not the rest of the internet. And, don't forget, I would be more than willing to provide proof of identity to ICD. That was part of Harald's proposal. Will
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