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Subject: Re: Addition to my "philosophy"/about free e-mail accounts

Author: Micheal Cummings

Date: 17:30:34 06/07/99

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On June 07, 1999 at 12:45:52, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On June 07, 1999 at 11:09:01, Shep wrote:
>
>>On June 07, 1999 at 10:48:24, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I know we'll never get ALL. But if only a handful of persons know of such a free
>>>e-mail account there will be a low probability that out of this handful of
>>>persons one or more will join or even know of CCC.
>>
>>Agreed. But I considered it the other way around:
>>If some abuser desperately wants to get into CCC, he will dig out some exotic
>>anonymous provider at the other end of the world and probably won't get caught.
>>I suppose searching AltaVista for "'free email' +url:*.jp" (or any other
>>'exotic' top level domain) should do the trick for those...
>
>Banning hotmail would hit a lot of honest people right in the face, and would
>provide only a minor speed bump for those who are intent upon causing trouble.
>Those who are not intent upon causing trouble, but cause trouble sort of
>incidentally, can be handled as individual cases, and would be just as likely to
>use a non-anonymous account, I think.
>
>Maybe I'm missing something, but this doesn't seem like a big problem at the
>moment anyway.
>
>Perhaps I've seen a few bozos using hotmail, but the largest problem that I can
>remember involved someone who used almost everything *except* hotmail.
>
>bruce

From the the post in the past that have caused the most problems, I check there
email address to see if it is free and most of the time it is not.

With programs that can change IP numbers, and unless you are going to bann
service providers on whole when someone get banned, it is very easy to go back
and get a new one from them.

Lets face it people whop come on here once and twice and shit stir will be
beaten off by this. but the poeple who make a ton of new names and who have
spent their life shit stirring people like bob, will find this no trouble.

It is an idea thought up to punish more people than it will help. Labeling all
free emauil users a possible trouble makers, having to prove themselves, when if
is just as easy to make trouble with legitimate emails addresses.

Unless you are going to have paid membership, with applications being filled out
to go someway to proving who you are, then it is pointless.

Lets face it how many people get banned here using free email accounts, and how
often. How much crap is removed and all that is done is a removed post with an
email, when they even bother to send one.

We have moderators here to do a job, I suggest they do it, and stop hurting more
innocent people than there are bad.

Either everyone proves who they are, or no one does. You have no right to ask
someone who may not have an email account with their provider to prove who they
are. Free email is turning up everywhere. I know of at least 8 accounts you can
get in Australia alone. Image the ones in the states and Europe.

I hope Steve is going to pay someone to go find all these places, its like
countries that want to censor the internet. you cannot use a filter, otherwise
words like breast will wipe off all the medical sites as well.

I estimate hundreds of free email accounts you can get.



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