Author: Melvin S. Schwartz
Date: 18:26:04 06/08/99
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On June 08, 1999 at 08:43:46, Jeroen van Dorp wrote: >Well, it takes some time to offend ME, buddy :-) > >But Dave puts it right. > >What you're basically saying is that Hiarcs should get a handicap to be able to >be compared with Fritz. IMO that's not right. >It seems that Hiarcs uses the SAME system resources Fritz uses, but a lot >better. And I think that's an important indication that the engine is stronger. > >If that would be not the case, then what ARE the parameters for measuring >strenght. You know what I mean? It's like giving more time on the clock to Vishy >Anand because he's not as strong as Kasparov. That would be rediculous. > >BTW on another place here on the board we discussed the use of one machine in >stead of two machines for testing engines. I only use one computer - that's all >I have :-), and as pointed out that affects comparable performance a lot more. > >Don't be faint hearted Mel, let me know if you disagree! > >Jeroen ;-} > >BTW I let the two play a couple of games with Hiarcs 8Mb HT and Fritz 32Mb HT, >as you suggested. Hiarcs won 6-3 with 3 draws. But it were 30 minute games, no >40/20. I'll try that shortly. > >CU Hello Jeroen, You should know I am not the least bit timid to disagreeing with anybody! When I say that Hiarcs doesn't use Hash-tables like Fritz, it is because from what I understand, Hiarcs uses chess knowledge as opposed to what Fritz does in using Hash-tables for knowledge - that I believe is why you'll see Fritz filling up his HT capacity when Hiarcs may only be using 2%. Your above reference of 40/20 is not what I recommend - I like to see programs compared at 40/120! And I like to see programs compared with what is recommended as their optimum requirements in regards to Hash-tables. I also like to see programs compared on the same type of hardware - but two computers! However, since that is not possible in your case, I feel that at least we should allow Fritz his recommended HT size which is very important to him. If you persist in denying Fritz his rightful HT size, he may never talk to you again:). Mel
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