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Subject: Re: Nalimov tablebases other than included with Hiracs 7.32

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:38:30 06/09/99

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On June 09, 1999 at 16:08:20, Robin Smith wrote:

>On June 08, 1999 at 23:17:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 08, 1999 at 23:11:39, Nicholas Cooper wrote:
>>
>>>I notice that Hiracs 7.32 (as distributed by ChessBase) includes all the 3 and 4
>>>piece endgame tablebases but only the following 5-piece ones:
>>>KPP-KP, KRP-KR, KBP-KB, KRB-KR, KRN-KR.
>>>Given that, for example, KQP-KQ, KQ-KRP and KQ-KR are of significant importance
>>>in practical play, is it possible to download these somewhere and if so, how
>>>large are they? I have read that the generating program for the compressed
>>>tablebases can require large amounts of RAM which I do not have (my machine is a
>>>PII-233MHz with 64MB RAM).
>>>
>>>Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>>Nick Cooper
>>
>>all of the 3 vs 2 Nalimov files are available at ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/TB/
>>
>>all of the files available require about 6 gigs compressed (you can leave them
>>compressed for crafty, I don't know about hiarcs) and almost 23 gigs if you
>>uncompress them...
>
>Downloading 6 gigs of data is a daunting prospect.  Are these available
>elsewhere, perhaps on a CD set or DVD?  Also, what are the advantages of the
>Nalimov files as compared to the Ken Thompson endings databases?
>
>Thanks for any insight you can provide.
>
>Robin Smith


Several advantages:

1.  complete 5-piece files available (except for kxxx vs k).

2.  distance to mate rather than distance to conversion

3.  compression technique allows on-the-fly decompression so that these
can be used right in the search itself, rather than only at the root of the
tree.



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