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Subject: Re: FRITZ5.32 - HIARCS7.32 = 0 - 1 game 8. ( good endgame) look!!!

Author: Melvin S. Schwartz

Date: 07:22:36 06/11/99

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On June 11, 1999 at 06:19:36, blass uri wrote:

>
>On June 11, 1999 at 00:14:23, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>
>>
>>On June 10, 1999 at 22:46:49, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On June 10, 1999 at 19:09:47, Francis Monkman wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On June 10, 1999 at 16:23:25, Tania Devora wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, This is the game number 8 under tournament controls, (40/2)
>>>>>Hiarcs7.32 won, a good endgame, Fritz was in a better position in the openning ,
>>>>>I think.
>>>>>
>>>>>look 17.Bh5 ?  I dont understand, Anybody explain me , Please.
>>>>>
>>>>>Give me youre opinion !   Thanks...
>>>>>
>>>>You know, I set up my copy of Fritz at 40/2, played in 17. ...Ng6 and Fritz
>>>>preferred 18. b4 to 18. Bh5 at about 20 seconds, never left it, and played it
>>>>after about 4 minutes (200 MHz). If you're running at 400MHz, presumably Fritz
>>>>changes back again??
>>>
>>>I think that it is the case.
>>>Fritz5(16 bit) changes back to 18.Bh5 at depth 13 after some minutes(more than
>>>10 minutes on pentium200).
>>
>>Hello Uri,
>>
>>I set uo the position on my K6 400MHz processor with 131 megs of RAM, and on the
>>18th move Fritz played b4 with a slight advantage for White 0.31. Therefore, I
>>can't see speed being the problem.
>
>Hello Mel
>Fritz5.32 probably used 511+1095 seconds in tania's game(It could use 511
>seconds in hiarcs7.32's)
>
>Did you give your Fritz5.32 the same time?

Hello Uri,

Yes, I had it set for 40/2. I repeated this test more than once at 40/2- and
every time Fritz played b4. Please see my other comment below.
>
>I have not Fritz5.32 and tried only Fritz5.16
>Fritz5.16 prefered b4 for a long time and only at depth 13 changed its mind to
>Bh5.
>
>> Another curious thing is on the fifth move,
>>while playing back the game, Fritz played Nc3 and not Nb5 as reported by Tania.
>>Also, on the 5th move in the Opening tree, the only move listed for Fritz to
>>play was Nc3! I can't explain how Fritz in her game would play Nb5 when it is
>>not listed in the Opening tree. Nc3 was the only move listed in the tree.
>
>Fritz is using a different opening book(of old Fritz5) in her games but
>Hiarcs7.32 also have problems.

>I see from the games that Hiarcs7.32 does not use nalimov tablebases.
>I understand also that Hiarcs7.32 also does not use its book and use the same
>book of Fritz5.

They should not be using the same book - this is made clear in the booklet with
Hiarcs 7.32. It states" Hiarcs 7.32 comes with the original opening book from
Eric Hallsworth. Note: The special move probabilities of this book are only
working properly in the Hiarcs 7.32 user interface, not in Fritz 5.32 or Junior
5 or Nimzo 99 older than June 99. As soon as you start editing the book
yourself, those probabilities will be lost. So to keep original Hiarcs
behaviour, please leave the book unchanged. Technical reason: Fritz and the
other programs usually work with probabilities assigned to positions, not to
moves".>

Regards,
Mel

>Regards,
>Uri



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