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Subject: Re: Deep Blue Chip (consumer) is urban legend!

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 04:19:15 06/13/99

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On June 13, 1999 at 05:27:59, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>
>On June 13, 1999 at 00:54:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>
>>>Read College and University papers, and see how many of these types of comments
>>>are made and written on various subjects, and see how many actually come into
>>>reality.
>>>
>>
>>I have no idea what you mean...  He has built the machine...  So all you
>>are hung up on is whether he can deliver it to the end-user or not?  Why
>>not just wait rather than making statements that are insulting?  Either he
>>will sell them or he won't.  I suspect the former.  He generally doesn't
>>put things into writing and then walk away from them..
>>
>
>So you are tellimg me he has already built the chip, and it is just waiting for
>someone to make and market it. Because if you are talking about the DB machine
>that won against Kasparov. That is a long way from a small chip to put into a
>computer.
>
>And just wondering, how do you know if he has made this chip already. Or are you
>just trusting what he said.
>
>I want to see some hard data on this chip, I have seen many invention fall by
>the way side. And I am not going out to insult anyone. I am just wondering why
>so many people want to jump on the band wagon of this. Send me some hard data,
>not just words from Hsu and I will eat my words.
>
>I am just not as gullable as some, especially in computer related area, so many
>promises, so many time people fail to live up to their statements

Michael,

As I said in my first message in this thread, there is a detailed article on
the Deep Blue chips in IEEE Micro, March-April 1999. I'm not sure whether this
would be found in a general library, but I'm sure any University library would
keep it. It contains a good amount of detail about the Deep Blue chess
processors. I'm not sure if I understand what you mean when you say that DB
"is a long way from a small chip to put into a computer". The article states
that DB was made up of 480 such chips, connected to 30 IBM mainframes. But
the article also describes experiments where Hsu et al played matches between
single DB chips and some contemporary chess programs. I don't want to
selectively quote from the article, not least because I don't have it to hand.
But I'd encourage you to read it as it is very interesting. As I implied in my
previous post, there are no grounds to doubt that it is technically feasible to
interface these chips to a PC.

If you're serious about this issue, I guess you'll get the article, read
it and then post your thoughts on it. If Bob's right and you're not serious and
you're just trolling to get responses, I'm afraid I won't be bothering to answer
civilly again.

Best regards

Andrew Williams



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