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Subject: Re: Deep Blue Chip (consumer) is urban legend!

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 13:28:42 06/13/99

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On June 13, 1999 at 13:54:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 13, 1999 at 12:00:28, Peter Hegger wrote:
>
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>
>>Hard data: Beat kasparov in 1997 using 480 of thse things.  Current version
>>>of the chip searches at 2-2.4M positions per second per chip.  Using an old
>>>fab process.  Commercial version (.18 micron I think) will search at an
>>>estimated 36M nodes per second per chip.  He could possible (for high-end
>>>users) put maybe 4-8 of these chips on a PCI card.  Which would be about as
>>>fast as the old deep blue hardware. Whether the PCI bus could sustain the
>>>bandwidth to handle multiple cards is unknown to me...  but with search tuning
>>>it could possible work...
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>Bob, as I've been following the DB jr. threads I've seen it mentioned that 4
>>chips per PCI card would be the max. If 8 were a reality this would be very
>>exciting as it would eclipse DB 97 in search speed.
>>Sorry, I don't have access to IEEE journal but is this where the figure of 8
>>possible chips per PCI card was mentioned?
>>You also mentioned in another thread that DB jr. would be 400 points stronger
>>than any micro programs of today. Was that assessment based on a 1 chip machine
>>or the fully blown 8 chip screamer?
>>Thanks
>>Peter
>
>
>It was a gross under-estimate.  In the IEEE paper, Hsu reported something like
>a 38-2 result vs micros, using a _single_ 2.4M nodes per second chip, running
>at about 10% of its normal speed.  So the new chip will be on the order of
>150 times faster than that chip.  Only +400 would be embarassing for that
>machine...
>
>As far as 8 chips per card, that was just a guess on my part...  Probably
>depends on the physical size of the ASIC and support chips, plus current drain
>limits on the PCI bus, plus bandwith at 100mhz (or maybe 133 by then).  If Hsu
>said 4 in the article, then 4 it is...
>
>It will be something.  And I personally belive it will happen.  If you are a
>WWF fan, I'll paraphrase Stone Cold Steve Austin:  "It will happen because Hsu
>says so."  :)

Not that it matters much, but I hope its your kids, not you! :-)

Torstein



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