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Subject: Re: Intensive tests for Hiarcs 7.32!!

Author: Melvin S. Schwartz

Date: 20:56:23 06/13/99

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On June 13, 1999 at 23:37:12, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:

>
>On June 13, 1999 at 18:48:32, Tomas Casanovas Martinez wrote:
>
>>On June 13, 1999 at 17:48:50, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On June 13, 1999 at 16:23:17, Tomas Casanovas Martinez wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have been operating three computers simultaneusly -overnight- to test H.7.32
>>>>against the following programs: Fritz 5.32, Junior 5 and Crafty 16.6. All the
>>>>games at tournement level: 40 moves 2 hours. Unfortunately my computers are
>>>>different:
>>>
>>>What is the opening book you are using for Fritz? General ctg or F5 ctg? And
>>>what is the Hash-table info for Fritz and Hiarcs? And only 5 games?
>>>
>>>Mel
>>>>
>>>>Pentium II 400 , 256 hash, 'Hiarcs 7.32 environment', against Fritz 5.32
>>>>Hiarcs 7.32 - Fritz 5.32     +2   -0   =3      3,5-1,5
>>>>
>>>>Pentium 200, 64 hash, 'Junior 5 environment', against Junior 5.
>>>>Hiarcs 7.32 - Junior 5       +4   -3   =1      4,5-3,5
>>>>
>>>>Pentium  90,  32 hash, 'Fritz 5.32 environment', against Crafty 16.6.
>>>>Hiarcs 7.32 - Crafty 16.6    +4   -3   =0      4,0-3,0
>>>>
>>>>Although I know well that at least 200 games are necessary to establish tha
>>>>rating of a new program, my feeling is that this extremely strong Hiarcs 7.32
>>>>will be rated around 2625, well above all the other commercial programmes.
>>>>
>>>>It is a bit surprising that whereas H 7.32 consistently wins against Fritz 5.32
>>>>in all the tests performed -Tania, et al.-, it has substantial problems to win
>>>>against Junior 5 and Crafty 16.6, who have proven to be extremely strong rivals.
>>>>
>>>>Do you think that the different hardware and 'environments' have been decisive
>>>>for the results obtained?. My computers are still working on...
>>>>
>>>>Tomas.
>>
>>Mel, I use Hiarcs.ctg both for Hiarcs and for Fritz.
>>
>Tomas,
>
>You should not being using Hiarcs ctg as an opening book for Fritz! Have you
>read the CD insert about how the opening book for Hiarcs is unsuitable for
>Fritz? You should be using the opening book designed for Fritz - F5 ctg. This is
>on the Talk CD. Your testing is unfair unless you allow both sides to have their
>proper opening book. How could you possibly use a Hiarcs opening book for Fritz?
>That's like putting a Hyundai motor in a Cadillac. Don't

Tomas,

I should clarify the Hyundai - Cadillac anaogy: I didn't mean Hiarcs book is
bad, just that it's bad for Fritz - and totally unfair. If you put a Hyundai
motor in a Cadillac, it will not perform as if it had a Cadillac motor, right?

Mel

you want to test
>programs on an equal basis - as equal as possible?
>
>Mel
>>Tomas.



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