Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: FRITZ5.32 - HIARCS7.32 = 0 - 1 (12) Please look !!!! need opinion

Author: Melvin S. Schwartz

Date: 21:45:01 06/13/99

Go up one level in this thread



On June 13, 1999 at 19:17:02, blass uri wrote:

>
>On June 13, 1999 at 14:47:15, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>
><snipped>
>>>I do not have unlimited time and I prefer to test Junior against the best
>>>program.
>>>
>>>I believe that Hiarcs7.32 is now the best commercial program  because I believe
>>>that Hiarcs7.32 is better than Hiarcs7 and I also know that Hiarcs7 did very
>>>good results in tournaments.
>>>
>>For someone who has often said "show me proof" I am surprised to hear you say "I
>>believe" which is quite different than "fact". Tournaments? You know that SSDF's
>>testing at 40/2 between Hiarcs 7 and Fritz 5.32 was 22-18 in Fritz's favor. Now
>>that is fact. I have seen another tournament of ten games where the score was
>>6-4, again in favor of Fritz. Now that too is fact. I personally have no desire
>>to say Fritz is better than Hiarcs 7; however, I cannot see how you can dispute
>>the above results and say Hiarcs 7 is better because Mark Young's tests reveal
>>that to you. That's like saying the heck with everyone else's results and let's
>>just go by Mark Young's feeling or test results.
>
>I believe that mark young is an honest tester but it is not only because of mark
>young's tests
>
>Hiarcs7 did better results in enrique's games(40 minutes per 40 moves on 2
>pentium400's and I have the games in this case).
>You can find the results and the games in computer chess resource centre.
>If you click on chess computer reports and go down to computer-computer games
>you can find enrique's games.
>
> I have a little problem with
>>that. And I like Hiarcs better! However, as you say, "show me proof". I don't
>>particularly enjoy defending Fritz; I only do so out of fairness to all. I
>>wouldn't be the least surprised if Hiarcs 7.32 goes to number 1 on the SSDF
>>rating list; in fact, I expect that will be the case. However, until both Hiarcs
>>7.32 and Fritz 5.32 square off in at least 40 games, we really are just using
>>the hypothetical here, aren't we?
>
>Yes,It is only my impression that Hiarcs7.32 is better and I may be wrong.
>I believe that the only difference between hiarcs7.32 and hiarcs7 is the fact
>that hiarcs7.32 is 25% faster and can use nalimov tablebases if your computer is
>fast enough but again I cannot be sure about it.

Hello Uri,

I have been told by Steve Lopez who writes the T-notes column for ChessBase, and
is the technical support guy at Chessbase USA, that in order to get Nalimov
Tablbases you need about 8 gigs of space on your harddrive and then you download
it which takes something like two weeks. Good luck!

Mel

>Uri



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.