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Subject: Re: Intensive tests for Hiarcs 7.32!!

Author: Melvin S. Schwartz

Date: 20:01:44 06/14/99

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On June 14, 1999 at 17:42:22, Tomas Casanovas Martinez wrote:

>On June 14, 1999 at 17:20:46, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>
>>
>>On June 14, 1999 at 00:15:00, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>On June 13, 1999 at 23:44:04, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On June 13, 1999 at 18:53:37, Tomas Casanovas Martinez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>...sorry, Mel. I forgot to say that both programmes play with 32 M. hash tables.
>>>>
>>>>Tomas,
>>>>
>>>>If you read the Fritz manual, you should know the formula for HT size. 32 megs
>>>>for Fritz is less than half what he needs on your processor. Fritz needs more
>>>>than 72 megs on your hardware if you're testing at 40/2? I forgot to look back
>>>>but if you're testing at 40/2, then that's another problem besides using the
>>>>wrong book.
>>>>
>>>>Mel
>>>
>>>Let's keep things straight here: it's a problem with Fritz, not his computer.
>>
>>Hello Dave,
>>
>>He is reporting a test result between two programs. I believe that when you are
>>taking the responsibility of testing and reporting, you shouldn't mislead people
>>with results based on unfair testing. If you don't mind looking at test results
>>done under his kind of disregard for proper things like the HT size or proper
>>book (I've seen a test result here where someone was using Hiarcs 7.32 book for
>>both Hiarcs and Fritz) well, if you want to encourage this kind of testing and
>>reporting, that is your perogative. However, I don't see it, as you stated
>>above, a problem with Fritz - I see it as a problem with the tester!
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mel
>
>Mel, I think there is no problem with the tester -myself-. If I decide to run
>three computers to intensively test some programmes , this is my free decision.
>If I do not receive any indication in contrary sense by the moderators of this
>forum I also assume that I can post here the results. If you are not interested
>in them, please simply forget them and go to the following message.Thanks.

That's correct - you can test any way you like. You can set-up Fritz with no
hash-tables, or Hiarcs 7.32 without thinking on opponents time vs. program B
allowed to think on opponents time, etc. Do you like to see testing of programs
without regard to what is recommended for them by the programmer? What is the
value of such test results??

Mel
>
>Tomas.
>
>>>For instance: Fritz is playing the GMs on a quad machine with 4 gigs of ram.
>>>I'm sure that in 10 years we'll all think that 4 gigs is peanuts, but today the
>>>story is different.  Meanwhile, those of us in reality with a limited paycheque
>>>will notice that other chess software doesn't ask for a similar amount of
>>>memory, and send the complaints to where they belong.
>>>
>>>Dave



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