Author: James Robertson
Date: 07:58:28 06/15/99
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On June 15, 1999 at 10:03:05, James T. Walker wrote: >On June 14, 1999 at 19:20:03, James Robertson wrote: > >>On June 14, 1999 at 18:34:00, walter irvin wrote: >> >>> there seems to be great concern over which program is stronger. i myself want >>>the strongest i can get.but alot depends on what you are going to do with the >>>program? >>> i wish there were a rating for how good a program was at long term slow over >>>night thinking. i really believe if there was a separate list for like 3 >>>different times,you would get three different winners. >>> like blitz from 5-30 sec move >>> tourn 3-5 min move >>> long term 1-5 hours move >>> >>>i believe at the slower time limits smart programs such as hiarcs, m-chess, >>>rebel,would destroy programs such as fritz ect.because the slower programs would >>>not get caught up in tactics so easy,then it would come down to chess >>>knowledge,weak faster programs would lose big?????????? >> >>Not necessarily. Ed Schroeder's testing shows Crafty to be _extremely_ strong at >>very long time controls, and it spends a great deal less time in it's eval >>function than Hiarcs. >> >>The new Hiarcs 7.32 seems to be beating Fritz in all speeds of play, fast or >>slow. >> >>Diep just got trashed by Ferret at a long time control, both programs were using >>the same hardware, and Ferret is known as a fast tactician. >> >>I bring up these examples to show that there is no way to tell what will do >>better where; it seems to be almost random. :) >> >>James > >Hello James, >Just one point about Hiarcs beating Fritz at all speeds. I just received H732 >last nite and have only played 80 blitz games (Game/5 minutes) but they are >auto232 games which allows both Programs to play in their natural element. >Fritz is leading with a score of +31 -29 =20. I will not post anymore untill I >have 200 games but I see no indication of Hiarcs being superior to Fritz at >blitz anyway. If it is it will have to have a major improvement in play in the >next 120 games. I do not accept the engine/engine games people are posting here >since they seem to be played under unusual circumstances with very wild results. >Jim Walker Ok; this actually makes more sense. Fritz has always been thought to have an edge over Hiarcs in blitz, but I guess maybe some overly enthusuastic Hiarcs fans went wild when the new version came out. :) James
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