Author: Melvin S. Schwartz
Date: 19:24:58 06/16/99
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On June 16, 1999 at 17:20:55, Albert Silver wrote: >On June 16, 1999 at 14:34:06, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: > >> >>On June 16, 1999 at 12:47:18, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>>On June 15, 1999 at 22:56:55, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>On June 15, 1999 at 21:46:07, Albert Silver wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 15, 1999 at 20:38:55, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I put in the Hiarcs 7.32 CD and clicked on manuals, and up popped the manual for >>>>>>Fritz 5.32. That was problem number one. I also notice that sometimes the time >>>>>>taken per move goes off. That was problem number two. But the real killer was >>>>>>when I put Fritz's Talk CD in and was playing a game against Hiarcs 7.32 and I >>>>>>happened to mutter to myself - Where the heck is the manual for Hiarcs 7.32. It >>>>>>was right after I said that, the voice on the CD began laughing! Has anyone >>>>>>experienced this phenomena - the Talk CD laughing? I did't think it was funny so >>>>>>I took out the Talk CD and poured Clorox on it and now it isn't laughing >>>>>>anymore! >>>>>> >>>>>>Mel >>>>> >>>>>The GUI (the program as opposed to the engine) is the same for Junior, Fritz, >>>>>Nimzo99, and Hiarcs. If it said Fritz then that was certainly an oversight, but >>>> >>>>Hello Albert, >>>> >>>>Seriously, the manual inside Hiarcs 7.32 which says Fritz 5.32 is the exact same >>>>manual for Fritz. It even has the diagram showing in the window the hash-table >>>>percentages. To my knowledge there is no manual for Hiarcs on the CD. >>>> >>> >>>Mel, >>> >>> Both programs (GUI) are identical. The only difference is the engine so >>>the manual should be the same. >> >>Hello Albert, >> >>Are you saying the megs needed for Hiarcs is the same formula (amount) as needed >>for Fritz? That is what the manual on the Hiarcs CD (Fritz 5.32) states. >>Furthermore, that very same manual displays the hash-table percentages as Fritz >>does but Hiarcs does not display this information on the screen. >> >>Mel > >That's an engine question and not a GUI one, so there the manual is of no help. >I could tell you that Hiarcs calculates roughly 1/10th the NPS of Fritz but that >means zilch as they handle hash tables differently. Otherwise ALL programs would >require and benefit enormously from huge amounts of RAM such as Fritz which is >not the case. My suggestion is to e-mail their support and ask them. Hello Albert, First, and foremost, I appreciate your trying to help me out here. Albert, I e-mailed ChessBase days ago and still have no answer from them. I'm beginning to wonder if they know what the answer is! Mark Uniacke wrote the program and I believe ChessBase converted it for Windows and henceforth we have this problem of Fritz's manual in Hiarcs and other problems. Why do you think there is no hash-table info on the screen? How do you even know if it doesn't clear hash-tables after a move? How would you know if it were malfunctioning? Why does it show the time taken per move and not hash-table information? It may not be overly critical, but on the other hand, it would be nice to see that information don't you agree? Mel > Albert Silver >>>> >>>>>a minor one. As for the rest, well, it never would have occured to me to drown >>>>>the program in Clorox. If it survived, you might then consider putting it in the >>>>>toaster. I'm pretty sure that will do the trick. >>>>> >>>>I was only kidding!> >>>>> >>>>>P.S. There is an alternative solution (though not nearly as interesting as >>>>>melting the damn thing's plastic guts) consisting of turning the talk off.
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