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Subject: Re: A new kind of ply count

Author: Les Fernandez

Date: 17:13:44 06/18/99

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On June 18, 1999 at 12:18:14, Michel Langeveld wrote:

>On June 17, 1999 at 19:06:49, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On June 17, 1999 at 19:01:31, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On June 17, 1999 at 17:30:00, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>We all know that move generators can tell us how many legal moves exist in the
>>>>first <n> ply if written correctly.  Here is a new kind of question about it:
>>>>How many "distinct/unique" positions are there in the first n ply?
>>>>Some answers:
>>>>
>>>>Ply:  Number:
>>>>----  -------
>>>>0     1
>>>>1     20
>>>>2     400
>>>>3     7,602
>>>>4     101,236
>>> 5     1,244,216
>>Interesting how much ply 5 is reduced (from 4,865,609 raw positions).  The
>>reduction should be [in fact] MUCH GREATER, since most of the e.p. tags have no
>>effect at this point.
>
>Dann good point!!
>
>I shall try to help whatever is possible.
>I hope to finish today a full 9 ply search :-)))).
>
>I think the value of positions with epfield counted as different when the
>epfield can't be hit is not valuable. A position after:
>
>1 e4 e5 2 d4 is the same as
>1 d4 e5 1 e4
>
>Do you have counted this as different??
>
>Also castlingrights (KQkq) should be counted as different.
>
>A position after
>
>1 e3 e6 2 Ke2 Nf6 3 Ke1 Ng8 is different as:
>1 e3 e6 2
>
>Cheers!!
>
>Michel Langeveld (rudolf@stad.dsl.nl)

Hi Michel

Dann and I spoke about this study and both of us were extremely excited about
the results so far.  Michel if you should complete your 9 ply results I would be
interested in seeing them when they are available as I am sure Dann would be
also.  Are you going to run both LEGAL and UNIQUE positions?  Thanks

Les



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