Author: Lonnie Cook
Date: 03:15:57 06/19/99
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On June 17, 1999 at 21:44:05, James T. Walker wrote: >On June 17, 1999 at 18:08:12, Lonnie Cook wrote: > >>On June 17, 1999 at 17:58:22, James T. Walker wrote: >> >>>I finished my first 200 games today between Fritz 5.32 and Hiarcs 7.32. The >>>games were played at game/5min. They were run using auto232 operation. Fritz >>>had a K6-2-400 for 100 games and then swapped and took the PII 333 for the >>>second 100 games and vice versa. Fritz used the F5 opening book and Hiarcs used >>>it's own book. >> >>The problem with that is that the HIARCS book suxs. I started using it on ICC >>and lost many games outta the opening. Even the Fritz5 default book is better >>than the Hiarcs. Nimzo Gm books is still the best out there >> >******************************************* >Well the problem is that the book is part of the program so good or bad it stays >with it for test purposes. By the way, I looked at Fritz 5.32 scores when >coming out of book in the first 100 games and according to Fritz, Hiarcs had the >advantage in 60 games and 8 games were 0.00. That sounds like Fritz believes >the Hiarcs book is OK since Fritz felt it had the advantage only 32 times. >Jim Walker >*************************** I just got 161 games with 5 0 blitz, 45 meg hash each (Hiarcs 7.32 vs Fritz 5.32) with AMD K2 400 and Fritz gets 48-75-38 while Hiarcs gets 75-48-38. i used the Fritz5 default book. Hiarcs beats em all. I've played other engines too, its just another level higher > > >> Hiarcs had all 3/4 man tablebases plus the 5man tablebases >>>supplied on the CD plus about 10 more 5 man tablebases. (I don't have them all) >>>Fritz won the match 106.5-93.5 indicating about a 22 point superiority at blitz. >>> Of course only 200 games leaves some doubt and I will run another set later but >>>now I want to play 200 games with Hiarcs 7.32 vs Junior 5.0. By the way Hiarcs >>>turned at least one win into a draw because of the tablebases. It was a KPPKP >>>endgame which is supplied with the Hiarcs CD. The problem is there is no KQPKP >>>tablebase so when Hiarcs got the pawn to the 2nd rank (With Black) it did not >>>know how to win the game and got stuck in 3 time rep with Mate in 7 showing in >>>the window?! I had this same problem with another program which prompted a >>>question a few weeks ago. Bob Hyatt says that the only way to use the >>>tablebases is to have them all. I believe it but apparently some programmers do >>>not. At a minimum you need the promotion tablebases if you have the pawn >>>tablebases. >>>Jim Walker
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