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Subject: Re: Fritz Had an easy way, Centaur and Ikarus are weak programs !!!

Author: blass uri

Date: 08:11:29 06/19/99

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On June 18, 1999 at 21:34:42, Brett Clark wrote:

>On June 18, 1999 at 13:11:56, Tania Devora wrote:
>
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>>   Centaur and Ikarus are weak programs , Fritz has luck !!!
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>>   And fritz hardware seems to powerful in compare with other strongs programs
>>that are running in PIII 550 or PIII 450.
>
>I think that your perception of Fritz and Hiarcs is skewed because of the engine
>vs. engine matches that you have played on your machine.  I also have observed
>that in my engine vs. engine matches, Hiarcs is better, but in the true test
>with two separate machines, the programs are very close in strength; indeed,
>Fritz may even be a little stronger.

I think that engine-engine games are more interesting for the public because
most of the people have not 2 identical computers.

I do not understand what is the reson that there is a big difference between
engine-engine games and games with 2 computers.

I can understand that there is a difference because in engine-engine games the
programs cannot use the permanent brain but I do not expect a difference of more
than 50 elo rating and the results that I saw suggest a difference of more than
50 points rating.

It is possible that there is a bug in the autoplayer that change the results of
computer-computer games.

I am interested to know if computer-computer games of Fritz-Hiarcs can be
reproducable manually.

There are 2 questions to check:

1)Can you reproduce manually the moves of Hiarcs when you use 2 computers(I
suspect that Hiarcs is weaker with the autoplayer)?

2)Can you reproduce manually the moves of Fritz in engine-engine games
(Maybe Fritz5.32 is playing weaker in engine-engine games and it is the reason
for the poor results against Hiarcs7.32)


I bought Hiarcs and not Fritz5.32 because I test Junior in engine-engine games
and I prefer to test it against the best program in engine-engine games.

Uri



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