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Subject: Re: The swiss system is unfair for Junior

Author: blass uri

Date: 21:30:37 06/19/99

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On June 19, 1999 at 21:58:46, Tina Long wrote:

>On June 19, 1999 at 16:32:41, blass uri wrote:
>
>>Junior 4.5 out of 7 is better than cilkchess 5 out of 7 because Junior played
>>against better oponnents.
>>
>>Junior won cilkchess and played against
>>Shredder,Fritz,Darkthought,Nimzo,Hiarcs,Eugen(all of these program have at least
>>4.5 out of 7 except hiarcs and Eugen with 4 out of 7)
>>
>>Cilkchess was lucky to play against weak programs like patzer and sos in the
>>first 2 rounds and did not play against strong opponents except Junior,dark
>>thought and Hiarcs7.
>>
>>
>>The result is that the humans are going to have an easier job tommorow because
>>they are not going to play the best 4 computers.
>>
>>Uri
>
>The final result is fair! Cilkchess performed better than Junior. This is how
>the Swiss tournament works.

Cilkchess scored more points then Junior but did not perform better than it.
I know that this is the way that the swiss system work but this is not fair.

We can find a different order based on performance of the programs.
We need to calculate which program has the best rating if we assume that this
tournament repeat again ans again.
>
>When you lose an early round you then play lower ranked opponents until the end
>nears.
>
>Chess Tiger lost the first two games & thus got to play 29,22,14,19,8.
>
>Look at the opponents of Hiarcs who played higher opponents than anyone,
> 9,17(MChess),2,5,1,3,4.
>
>Again, this is what happens in a Swiss Tournament.  A seven round tournament for
>30 opponents is more practical than a round robin, but will depend on luck in
>the final results.
>
>Cilkchess scored more than Junior by beating Hiarcs in the final round.  If
>Junior had beaten Hiarcs in round 4 then Cilkchess may not have met Hiarcs at
>all.

You are right that Cilkchess won against Hiarcs when Junior drew against it by
on the other side Junior won dark thought and cilkchess drew against it.

Uri



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