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Subject: Re: Shredder - Ferret playoff, Bruce, Software Licenses

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 17:15:28 06/21/99

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On June 21, 1999 at 19:09:28, Heiko Mikala wrote:

>On June 21, 1999 at 14:38:17, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>In case anyone is wondering, the only changes to Ferret that I made before that
>>game were opening book changes designed to maximize winning chances.
>>
>>I did not change the contempt factor, for two reasons:
>>
>>1) I have never tested with a contempt factor other than which I normally use.
>>
>>2) I forgot to do it.
>>
>>It was absolutely my intent to win that game, and I did nothing before or
>>during that game that was in any way an attempt to steer the game to any other
>>result. If Stefan's program had cracked, he would have gone home withone
>>trophy less, you bet.
>>
>>Stefan and I are friends, and I'm happy that if someone other than myself had
>>to win that title, that it was Stefan, and I congratulate him.  However,
>>anyone who thinks that I didn't want to win that game, and that I was happy
>>with the result of that game, was obviously not present for my reaction
>>immediately after the game, has little understanding of me, or is of a
>>mentality that I don't understand and don't want to.
>
>Hi Bruce!
>
>I was there, I saw your reaction and I made a photo of it:
>
>http://www.online-club.de/~rp45195/wccc99/b6.jpg

Looks like Bruce behaved okay, he just looks exhausted! :-)

>And I can assure everybody, that you were definitely *not* happy with the
>result. More than that, I am absolutely sure, that of all the programmers at
>Paderborn you were the one, who took this championship most seriously and who
>most definitely wanted to have the title. With Stefan beeing second on this
>list, I guess.
>
>There were some other situations, which proved how seriously you wanted to
>have the title.
>
>For example, when, during the playoff, Stefan asked Jaap van den Herik, if he
>could stop writing down the moves on the scorecard, because the speed chess
>phase had begun. Immediately after Jaap saying Yes, you threw your pencil and
>your block to the ground. You should have seen Jaap's face in that moment :-)

That must have been funny to see...

>Or, when, during your game against Fritz, Ossi Weiner wanted to make a photo
>of you and asked you, if you could look into his direction, while you were
>looking very concentrated on your screen. Your answer was a short, but definite
>"No!". Wow. I guess, you are the only chess programmer in the whole wide world,
>who could have the heart to say no at that moment to Ossi. A man, who could
>make you rich, if he would offer you to market your program as part of the
>MCS, in a line with Chess Genius, Shredder, Nimzo, WChess, Zarkov and MChess.

Bruce was an expert chess player, wasn't he?  OTB chessplayers don't pose for
pictures with their clocks running!  If my program was on the move, I would
reject such a request too, though I would oblige while Fritz was thinking.  I
hope Bruce did not mean any offense, nor Ossi take any offense.

Re: money, well, it is completely not my business to go there.  I only make the
observation that Bruce used to work at Microsoft, but now watches his children
at home and works on improving Ferret.

>There were more of these situations. I'm sure, that everybody who saw you at
>Paderborn knows, that you really, really wanted to have that title!
>
>
>By the way, on my homepage at http://www.online-club.de/~rp45195/wccc99/
>there are many more photos of you and of most of the other programmers.
>Have a look at it, if you like.

I didn't want to make a whole post for it, but I appreciated seeing the
pictures.  Not quite the same as being there, but at least I have some idea of
it all.

>And, hmm, sorry, but I can't resist: If Ossi or Chessbase offer you a contract
>to market your program, please don't say no. We all want to have your great
>program, you know? ;-)

The way Bruce steadfastly refuses to publish it makes me think that even if he
had won, he still wouldn't. :/  Anyway, Bruce suggested in another post to get a
copy of Shredder, and no doubt a new version will be forthcoming!

Speaking of software licenses... could people please remove their restriction on
publishing computer vs. computer testing results?  I hate overly-restrictive
licenses... and I don't enter into license agreements that I don't like.  Hint.

>Regards,
>
>Heiko.

Dave



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