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Subject: Re: WMCCC 2000?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:07:28 06/22/99

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On June 22, 1999 at 10:42:38, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On June 22, 1999 at 09:35:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>
>>
>>When Andy/Danny/myself/others had this discussion the other night, the main
>>thing we all agreed on was that we'd like the competetion to be 'open' with
>>everyone able to participate, yet we want to exclude 'clones' of existing
>>programs (ie crafty/gnu/tcb/comet/etc).
>>
>>Doing so will be a bit of a problem.  But is probably necessary to make this
>>worthwhile...
>>
>>And the winner _must_ be subject to some sort of scrutiny to be sure that he
>>used an original program and not genius, or fritz or whatever...
>
>In a later discussion on ICC I was suggesting an extra "rule" that programs
>should output their evals and PVs into a channel or as whispers or kibitzes.
>This would make it a little easier to see what is going on - if ICC could
>store these for a few days afterwards, they could be inspected on appeal.  Zek
>and another person (mashter?) identified some problems with this approach, but
>I guess it might be a useful first step in preventing people from interjecting
>moves etc. You could even insist on the program outputting timing information
>(eg "allocating 60 seconds", "extending time by 28 seconds" etc) to prevent
><MOVE NOW> style interference.
>
>Even if this doesn't stop dodgy behaviour I think it would be a lot of fun for
>the spectators.
>
>
>Andrew Williams


I like the 'channel' idea...  each program could be required to produce certain
info and channel tell it...  everyone _could_ tune in on the program(s) they
are interested in...  and someone (myself included) could log all channel
chatter to a file for later analysis if needed.  I already display things
like 'time limit' in the search log, directing that to a channel.

but you are right, we need to do everything possible to ensure that the operator
'stays out of the game' 100%

at present, that is a problem on servers...



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