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Subject: Re: Shep Championship game 4

Author: pete

Date: 14:27:37 06/22/99

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On June 22, 1999 at 13:44:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 22, 1999 at 09:29:14, Francesco Di Tolla wrote:
>
>>On June 22, 1999 at 06:08:17, Harald Faber wrote:
>>[...]
>>>Individual choice... :-)
>>
>>Sure, but please don't take my statement the wrong way. I mean, few people today
>>spend the time to read warranties and licenses cause they are boring (some
>>people think they are like that on purpose, so to make you sign it and not
>>really read it) but for instance in Italy you cannot ask a person to don't
>>resell a copy of a program after having used it (other are the prohibition to
>>reverse a code, or in some cases to make a backup...).
>>
>>Of course one needs to uninstall the copy from the HD before. But for many years
>>licenses were insisting with the nonsense that one buys the right to use program
>>and that this can't be sold again. So my approach presently is to dislike in
>>general statements in the licenses which put restictions on actions were they
>>can't.
>>
>>Imagine what would happen if a company would sell cars asking in the contract
>>not to tell to other how much gasoline the engine uses in your experience!
>>
>>I really don't know and would like to know if this can be done.
>>
>>regards
>>Franz
>
>
>Probably impossible to enforce, so it is meaningless.  IE _you_ buy CSTal and
>Fritz 5.32, and lash them up into an autoplayer match.  And _I_ come over to
>watch.  _I_ can certainly post any games _I_ witness as _I_ don't have any
>license agreement to worry about.
>
>I think you could easily get around that without having to worry about legal
>action, should you want to do so.  Just ask a non-CSTal owner to watch the
>match and report the results...
>
>It would be impossible to compel him to say _where_ he watched the match,
>so that the 'owner' would be safe.  Although I think the owner would be
>perfectly safe to publish everything, since the program author does _not_
>have any legal methodology to claim copyright on the games played by his
>program after the program is sold...


Another interesting factor : what exactly is the meaning of publishing ; are you
really publishing anything when you make a post in an Internet Forum ? I have
serious doubts on that ! Nobody knows who is responsible for the things posted ,
how should that be proved ??

I think _if_ this license agreement is of any worth it may be if you write an
article in a journal where someone is responsible in person for the contents.

And which court in this world would punish anyone for posting computer chess
games and who would call a court anyway ?

I think this could be little different if suddenly Ossi Weiner would post 100
losses of fritz 5.32 against Shredder 3.0 and claiming it to be the games  of a
match over 100 games :) ; although those programs have no license agreement like
that .

Pete



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