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Subject: Re: WCCC and some NPS observations

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:52:38 06/23/99

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On June 23, 1999 at 11:19:23, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On June 23, 1999 at 09:56:54, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>Fritz finished in 3rd place.  This was a highly competitive field, and 3rd place
>>is IMO an excellent result.
>when  you start with 4 programs, ONE program has to be in a good place.
>just randomnly, isn't it. if they would have started with 10 programs,
>the chances would have been even higher. but this has nothing to do with
>chess, or ?
>its just trying to make the best out of a mess.
>>I didn't see CSTal there.  Excuses about a $500 entry fee notwithstanding, I can
>Right. Chris sees no reason to finance the icca although they like to ban him
>and me.
>>only presume that if it had been there, it would have been crushed by programs
>>like Fritz.
>really ? my autoplayer says different. i have no such problems on my 400 Mhz
>How do you know ? Also cstal is transformed into new-code , so chris and his
>programmers have to program it completely new from the scratch, all the
>code has to been transformed into bit-board code.

Oh No!.  Say it isn't so, Thorsten.  Wasn't Chris trying to tell me in the
past all the things that bitboards _can't_ do?  :)  Glad to see that he does
keep an open mind, and that he is willing to try things.  Sometimes the
surprises are good.  (of course, there are always bad ones here and there,

>we cannot participate with a program that is not THERE. cstal is not existing.
>it is not yet completely transformed in the new code.
>If you know better about CSTal than me and Chris, you seem to know better
>than the developers. :-)))
>I see that is does not stop you from spreading wrong and nasty rumors.
>Whatever your intention is, you are wrong.
>>Of course, we all know how intelligent that would have made CSTal
>there is no way to let fritz look more intelligent than cstal. no way.
>and anybody knows this, who has bought both programs.
>you try to turn this ? How ?
>400.000 times nothing is still nothing.
>6000 times something is always more than nothing.
>If you know more instead of "hear said", i mean , facts ! about computerchess,
>games, source-code or whatever, than discuss. but if you know nothing,
>don't try to confuse people.

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