Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:22:28 06/23/99
Go up one level in this thread
On June 23, 1999 at 00:37:10, Sarah Bird wrote: >On June 22, 1999 at 20:12:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On June 22, 1999 at 15:41:58, Howard Exner wrote: >> >>>I think different versions of Junior have logged in >>>40/2 tournament games against strong humans. Anyone have stats on these >>>results? I vaguely recall it doing quite well even on slower hardware. >>> >>>What is the time control for the upcoming Karpov - Shredder game? >>> >>>Slowly a collection of tournament condition >>>40/2 encounters will put to rest the speculation. >> >> >>Just so we follow formal 'sampling theory' here. IE we do _not_ want to pick >>a good result by Junior without picking all the bad results. Easier is to take >>these Rebel games and other acceptable games as they are played, rather than >>going back. Because to sample backward you have to include _all_ the data >>points, else 'cherry-picking' will greatly bias the result... > >Following excerpt is from IM Larry Kaufman's review of Hiarcs 7 >"HIARCS, by Applied Computer Concepts Ltd. with chess engine by British >programmer Mark Uniacke, has been one of the very strongest programs for the >last several years. The current version, 7.0, is apparently no exception. The >latest Swedish rating list (the most widely accepted standard for comparing >computer programs) ranks it third, just an insignificant 9 rating points behind >the co-leaders (CM 6000 and Fritz 5.32) and substantially ahead of the latest >rated versions of such strong programs as Junior, Rebel, MChess Pro, and Genius. >Moreover it is up an impressive 43 points from its predecessor, Hiarcs 6. To >fully appreciate just how strong Hiarcs 7 is, consider that its Swedish rating >of 2567 was earned on hardware (200 MHz MMX) markedly inferior to the latest >models (450-500 MHz). Moreover, the Swedish ratings are particularly severe, >almost certainly more conservative than FIDE ratings and far below USCF ratings. >These ratings are based on 40/2 games with other computers, with the overall >level of the list based on games with human competition some years ago. Although >I suspect that the level of the top computers may be a bit overstated now due to >failure to recalibrate the list based on today's GM level computers, this should >be offset by the severity of Swedish ratings in the past, so my guess is that >the 2567 rating at 200 MHz would hold up in FIDE competition today, which would >imply a FIDE rating over 2600 on today's fast machines. In other words, HIARCS 7 >plays tournament chess on a par with the top five players in the U.S. This in >turn implies that at action chess (game/30') HIARCS 7 probably plays around 2700 >FIDE level, on a par with the number ten player in the world, and should play >blitz better than Kasparov, Kramnik, and Anand." Larry is entitled to his opinion. However, he was writing about 2400 programs in the days of the 486/33 too. And while he can write about them, it doesn't mean that they are there yet. Lets just wait for a while and see whether the gap widens (5 to 3 so far) or gets closer, or if the programs can actually pass the humans...
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.