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Subject: Re: Poll Question for "If Computers are finally as Strong as GM's"

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 08:00:01 06/24/99

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On June 24, 1999 at 09:47:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>>>>>If you win an IM clearly, then you are certainly ABOVE. Right? And what is above
>>>>>IM? Is there something between IM and GM? I don't know of anything.
>>>>>I was not talking of EARNING a NORM.
>>>>>I was talking of GM LEVEL.
>>>>>
>>>>>>And hiarcs did
>>>>>>win... but aren't we discussing 40/2hr time controls here?  The hiarcs/Hergott
>>>>>>match was not 40/2.  So it all seems totally unrelated to the question being
>>>>>>asked...
>>>>>
>>>>>What was the time control then? AFAIR it was 40/120 or VERY VERY CLOSE.
>>>>
>>>>Don't forget other matches. Mchess 6 has won GM Nesis(?) 3,5 - 2,5 under
>>>>tournament conditions!!! This is more DATA for Bob.
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>Both of you guys are picking and choosing events.  This is precisely what Bob is
>>>trying to avoid by sticking with a current timeframe where all of the results
>>>are remembered, whether pro- or contra- to the assertion that programs are of GM
>>>strength.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>Picking events? Yes. The only events that took place. For NOT PICKING let us
>>please start a collection of games between humans and computers under tournament
>>or close to tournament time control, started 1995 e.g.
>
>
>That is the 'problem'.  I think you listed almost _all_ of the GM vs computer
>games (at 40/2hr) above.  :)  (ie there are practically none).

I don't know but if it is so you can't say I'd only pick the wins if there are
ONLY wins. :-)



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